Matchup: 3-Eyed Raisin Bran vs My name is Jeff for Ep 4

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3-Eyed Raisin Bran (jordanthibodeau)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Wine	Thrones	Special	Feels
Sansa Stark	#11	38	6	3	10	1	3	15
Bran Stark	#14	7	0	0	0	4	0	3
White Walker (Night King)	#2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Grey Worm	#23	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		45	6	3	10	5	3	18

My name is Jeff (alexargent15)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Wine	Sex	Thrones	Special	Feels
Jaime Lannister	#6	56	0	6	20	10	2	0	18
Tormund Giantsbane	#18	52	3	9	10	5	0	12	13
Euron Greyjoy	#19	12	11	0	0	0	1	0	0
Drogon	#7	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		120	14	15	30	15	3	12	31

Political Wins

38:17 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Arya and Sansa learn of Jon Snow's true heritage as a secret Targaryen and heir to the Iron Throne. (Secret Discovery)

46:50 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Sansa breaks her promise to Jon, divulging his secret heritage to Tyrion Lannister. "What if there's someone else? Someone better?" (Act of Betrayal)

50:36 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon gives charge of Ghost to Tormund, to take him back to his natural habitat north of the Wall. (New Follower/Prisoner)

53:57 (+5) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron and the Iron Fleet ambush Daenerys Targaryen's fleet on their way to Dragonstone, shooting Rhaegal out of the sky from their ship-mounted Scorpions. (Kill of Named Character (Orchestrated))

This was originally scored as a full Kill for Euron but changed to an Orchestrated Kill since there wasn't any on-screen evidence for whether Euron fired any of the killing bolts. https://fantasora.com/event/4581

Note that getting points for what your army does is not generally a score (aside from the Battle Victory), and this is a new category without a lot of precedents. In general it feels like Euron is deserving of this since Euron plans out the ambush and Rhaegal is caught unawares, e.g. is a sitting duck. We wouldn't want to count this category for say, every character killed by the Night King in the Battle of Winterfell. -nyan

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2019 May 7 imonaship12 likes this
If that is the case shouldn't Qyburn also get points for creating the scorpion 2.0 -Zaibin and Aadil

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2019 May 7 jesse.fitz12 likes this
Is this a substantial revamp of the original Scorpion? Or did they just make a lot more of them? -nyan

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2019 May 7 imonaship12 likes this
It was earlier shown that Scorpion 1.0 was useless and did no real appreciable damage; this seems to either be a significant redesign, or two _extraordinarily_ lucky shots that just happened to hit the spots that were wounded in the Battle of Winterfell by the Ice Dragon. -dopeghoti

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55:45 (+3) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron's Iron Fleet executes a devastating attack on Daenerys' armada, shooting down one of her dragons and sinking most of her ships just outside of Dragonstone. (Victorious Battle)

57:23 (+3) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron has captured Missandei and delivered her to King's Landing following the surprise attack on Daenerys' fleet. (New Follower/Prisoner)

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

14:47 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund demands Jon finish off his horn of wine in front of a celebratory crowd at the Feast of Winterfell.

Tormund: "We have to celebrate our victory."
Jon: "Vomiting is not celebrating."
Tormund: "...yes, it is." (Funny Line)

15:42 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime and Brienne play a drinking game of guesses.

Jaime: "You... are an only child."
Brienne: "I told you I was."
Jaime: "You didn't."
Brienne: "I did."
Jaime: "I surmised it." (Funny Line)

18:54 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

"Now, which one of you cowards shit in my pants?" (Funny Line)

21:27 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Sansa: "... he got what he deserved. I gave it to him."
Sandor: "How?"
Sansa: "Hounds." (Funny Line)

25:24 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Brienne: "It's the first thing I learnt when I came to the North. Keep your fire going. Every time you leave the room, put more wood on."
Jaime: "... You know the first thing I learned in the North? I hate the fucking North." (Funny Line)

47:26 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon: "Rhaegal needs to heal. He doesn't need me weighing him down."
Tormund: "You weigh as much as two fleas fucking." (Witty Insult)

Glasses of Wine Consumed

9:02 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sansa drinks from her cup at the head table as the awkward family dinner commences. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

9:52 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime drinks as Gendry scoots past him and Brienne in the aisle. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

9:53 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sansa stuffs her face with another cup as Gendry scoots his way down the aisle. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

A note on the scoring criteria here - normally it's scored per-glass in a scene (e.g. multiple sips not counted unless a refill is seen in between). However this ended up being such a long scene that there weren't the traditional cuts in between (like with the fireplace scenes in E2). I decided to treat it like a battle and somewhat arbitrarily divide the Feast of Winterfell into "scenes" based on which groups of character we cut to. Not perfect and open to thoughts on this rubric.

We probably wouldn't backdate scores this season but I'm coming around to counting every sip instead. Feels like the "not counted until refilled" is not the most fun mechanic, this was originally defined to get the numbers closest to actual "Glasses of Wine Consumed". -nyan

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2019 May 7 vjdev2015 likes this
I think if you’re changing it to every sip it’s unfair not to back date it. Think how many points tormund would have missed out on in ep2 for instance. -conor_finlay

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12:24 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Brienne and Jaime share a drink at the Feast of Winterfell.

Jaime: "We've fought dead things and lived to talk about it.If this isn't the time to drink, when is?" (Glass of Wine Consumed)

12:31 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund glugs straight from the pitcher during the Feast of Winterfell. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

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15:02 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund drinks from his horn as the crowd toasts both Daenerys and Arya. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

25:41 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime pours himself a cup and drinks in Brienne's bedchambers as he jealously questions her about Tormund Giantsbane. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

39:01 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime and Tyrion drink after toasting to Jaime's new relationship with Brienne. "To climbing mountains." (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Acts of Intercourse

19:48 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

After being spurned by Brienne, Tormund rebounds with a Northern girl who fancies him at the Feast of Winterfell.

Northern girl: " You can touch me. I'm not afraid of Wildlings."
Tormund: "Maybe you should be."
(Act of Intercourse)

27:20 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime fumbles awkwardly in his first attempts at flirting with someone who is not a sibling, but ultimately succeeds in wooing Brienne with the 'ol "my it's quite hot in here". (Act of Intercourse)

65:39 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime sits brooding in front of the fireplace after a 2nd night with Brienne, reflecting on how one just can't go back to non-incest after hitting that high-grade sibling kush. (Act of Intercourse)

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A Game of Thrones

4:44 (+1) Bran Stark:

Bran sits in his wheelchair among the crowd as they pay their respects to the dead from the Battle of Winterfell. (Basic Seat)

8:54 (+1) Sansa Stark:

Sansa sits at the head table during the celebratory feast at Winterfell. (Basic Seat)

8:54 (+1) Bran Stark:

Bran sits in his wheelchair behind the head table during the celebratory feast at Winterfell. (Basic Seat)

35:54 (+1) Bran Stark:

Bran sits in his wheelchair in the background of Daenerys' war planning meeting. (Basic Seat)

36:07 (+1) Bran Stark:

Bran sits in a wheelchair in the Godswood during the Stark family intervention meeting with Jon. (Basic Seat)

38:29 (+1) Jaime Lannister:

Tyrion sits with Jaime in front of a fireplace in Winterfell, as Tyrion ribs Jaime on his newfound romance with Brienne. (Basic Seat)

53:50 (+1) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron sits in the gunner's seat of the Scorpion aboard his ship, as the Iron Fleet chases down Daenerys' dragons. (Basic Seat)

65:17 (+1) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime sits on a chair in front of the fireplace after a 2nd night with Brienne, reflecting on how non-incest just doesn't really do it for him. (Basic Seat)

Special

19:05 (+12) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund eagerly stares at Brienne as she excuses herself to take a piss. His 3-second gaze is unfortunately interrupted by Jaime. (Special)

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Also would “icy fucks” count as a witty insult? Or does it have to be said directly to the target of the insult? -conor_finlay

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2019 May 7
Doesn't have to be said at anyone, and for Tormund these kind of half-bleed into funny lines. I did add the "shit in my pants" line right after "icy fucks", here: https://fantasora.com/event/4628

I could go either way on this icy fucks line. -nyan

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2019 May 8
I feel like he definitely does more than 3 points worth of staring here? He stares straight into her eyes for 5/6 seconds as he walks over to her. He’s speaking to everyone but his eyes are fixed right on hers and he also happens to be talking about “looking into blue eyes”. His second stare is about 5/6 seconds aswell, from the end of his laugh to the moment Jaime steps in front of him and his eyes move to him. -conor_finlay

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2019 May 8
I know he doesn’t get points for just looking at Brienne but these two stares are definitely more in line with the stares he was scored for in episode 2. -conor_finlay

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2019 May 8
That was my bad, I meant to mark this as 3 seconds and 9 points. This is the portion that you can see Tormund's eyes during the stare in the screenshot, between Brienne's "pardon me for a moment" and Jaime interrupting. The 5s is about right if you include the beginning where we just see the back of his head. Don't feel too strongly about the cutoff here, call it even at 4s? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's subjective but I feel that before this with the "icy fucks" he is mostly jovial and talking to her like a person instead of objectifying her? -nyan

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2019 May 8
Yeah that’s fair in regard to the “icy fucks” part. I’d still argue that he should get the whole 5/6 seconds for the second stars as we can still see he’s looking at her even though we can’t see his eyes the whole time. Ultimately it’s up to you though. -conor_finlay

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23:06 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Sansa cries over Theon's body as the Northern forces pay their respects to the dead after the Battle of Winterfell. (Special)

The Feels

4:30 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sansa grieves over the body of Theon Greyjoy as the forces at Winterfell gather to honor the dead. She leaves him with her Stark brooch before lighting the funeral pyre. (Sad Feels)

16:44 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund continually splashes wine EVERYWHERE as he regales the crowd with the legend of Jon Snow. (Ridiculously Funny Moment)

19:48 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund's heart is broken as he regales his story to Clegane. "And after all that, this fucker comes north and takes her from me. Just takes her, like that. I mean it, Clegane. My heart is broken." (Sad Feels)

22:07 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sandor Clegane and Sansa talk about their long journeys and roads not taken.

Sandor: " You've changed, Little Bird. None of it would have happened if you'd left King's Landing with me. No Littlefinger, no Ramsay none of it."
Sansa: "Without Littlefinger, and Ramsay, and the rest... I would have stayed a Little Bird all my life." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

37:18 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Arya and Sansa stage a family intervention with Jon Snow to bring him back to the Stark side.

Jon: "I've never been a Stark."
Sansa: "You are. You're just as much Ned Stark's child as any of us."
Arya: "You're my brother. Not my half-brother or my bastard brother. My brother." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

38:21 (+3) Bran Stark:

Jon: *struggles internally with secret heritage*
Bran: "It's your choice."
Jon: "I need to tell you a secret. But you have to swear you can't tell anyone."
Sansa, Arya: "We swear it."
Jon: "Alright, here goes... Bran, tell 'em." (I've made a huge mistake.)

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48:32 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon and Tormund say their final farewells, as Tormund leaves to take the Free Folk home beyond the Wall.

Tormund: "It isn't home. We need room to wander. I'll take them back through Castle Black as soon as the winter storms pass. Back where we belong." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

56:50 (+15) Jaime Lannister:

After two days of playing house with Brienne, Jaime receives news of the events in King's Landing and reflects on where his true passions lie.

"You think I'm a good man? I pushed a boy out a tower window, crippled him for life for Cersei. I strangled my cousin with my own hands just to get back to Cersei. I would have murdered every man, woman and child in Riverrun for Cersei. She's hateful. And so am I." (Sad Feels)

65:09 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

After two nights in bed with Brienne, Jaime lies awake and reflects on how non-incest just really doesn't do it for him. (I've made a huge mistake.)

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