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  1. An update on these - scores or more or less finalized, but lagging behind on the final email as I'm prepping some of the new games. Stay tuned! -nyan
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  2. I think I actually WON since I sit on the "metaphorical" throne -alexiss
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  3. Congratulations Brett! -steve.schlembach
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  4. 😊 -the_catherine316
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  5. Just to clarify, I’m suggesting this is scored for episode 4 not episode 6. -conor_finlay
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  6. Yeah I agree with that. Is this not a bit different though considering he’s introduced as “the new Prince of Dorne” rather than just “the Prince of Dorne”?. If that line wasn’t said in episode 4 I’d agree he shouldn’t get the points. -conor_finlay
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  7. Actually nvm on that, I ended up adding in the lines for both Royce and Edmure. -nyan
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  8. Since the character was introduced with this title, he won't get the credit for it (else every new character would come in with a bunch of default points, e.g. Stannis getting Dragonstone, 4-5 followers, an army, and a few titles when we first meet him in S2). -nyan
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  9. I originally didn't like these lines personally but the bar isn't that high tbh. We probably could give the lines or mayhaps the "Funny Moments" overall category to Sam, Edmure, and Royce? -nyan
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  10. Other scenarios a "Chills" category would apply -

    Night King surviving Drogon's fireblast
    Night King re-raising the dead
    Arya stabbing the Night King
    Walder Frey's "I'll find another" response

    Little bit worried about going to change scores once again for E3, but I feel like this is a good category to add overall. It gives good weight to these tension-driving moments and I think Night King owners would've been happier with it (instead of getting nearly 0 pts for these "cool" scenes).
    -nyan
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  11. Does he not get points for the line about asking his horse about the potential rise of democracy in Westeros? -tyler.j.hewitt
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  12. FINALLY 😍 BEST END EVER 😊🥰🐶💖 -Lem Lemoncake
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  13. that was really mean :( -Lem Lemoncake
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  14. If we/I want to be really anal about judging it, this is the last frame of the shot and Edmure and Robin have not sat down by the end of it (and aren't show again). If we go by wine criteria this wouldn't count as a new sit. -nyan
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  15. It's kind of a small, almost 1-person bench. -nyan
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  16. Bran's wheelchair is upgraded to a "Seat of Power" starting with this scene, since he's become King but the Iron Throne no longer exists. -nyan
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  17. If scored this would just be a betrayal for resigning as Hand - the betrayal for releasing Jaime was already scored last episode. At this point Daenerys may openly expect Tyrion to be hostile though?

    If we add a "Chills" category to the Feels, I could see this going there. These would be kind of "oh damn what a badass" moments, or moments that raise the stakes tension-wise. A lot of early Varys/Littlefinger monologues might also fit into a category like this.
    -nyan
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  18. This doesn't really fit all that well here, but there isn't a great category to reward her dialogue - it's not really any of the Line categories, and not really sad nor warm/fuzzy for Feels either. Maybe there'd be a "Chills" section of Feels? Or simply something in the dialogue category rewarding good speeches/monologues? The other parallel this season would be Jon's eulogy speech at Winterfell which was awarded under "Sad Feels". -nyan
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  19. What a tragedy. I just lost too many people. Middle of the pack. Looks like Wog got the victory. -drevanreppunbeachy
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  20. @megan.purcell Have you already started one? I *might* be able to whip up a "Convert Draft League to Salary" really quick. -nyan
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  21. Yeah, we came to that same conclusion -meagan.purcell
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  22. No episode 6 yet?! -Craftbeertart
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  23. Glad it worked out! I noticed the draft date is still weird which I'm trying to look into. Also btw this is quite a lot of teams - you might want to consider creating a Salary League instead where more people will be able to get who they want. -nyan
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  24. Hi nyan, we got it fixed. She accidentally exited, but when I reset the draft date and upped the number of possible people it worked. But thank you!
    -meagan.purcell
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  25. @phoenixsong265 what can't you get into? The draft page? Also when was the original date of the draft? -nyan
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  26. Still won't let me back in - maybe it has something to do with the start date being 19 years from now? lol -phoenixsong265
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  27. IT WON'T LET ME BACK IN -phoenixsong265
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  28. just a touch -element12137
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  29. Things have gone wonky -mmhorsew
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  30. Dibs on Fat Thor -Justjosh1822
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  31. BRING. IT. ON. -meagan.purcell
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  32. F I T E M E H -phoenixsong265
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  33. Scores for this last Ep will be in a little later in the week - going to squeeze in some features to show off the winners and provide some summary stats. User stats are now pinned in the ÜberRankings btw! -nyan
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  34. I'll leave this as a pending change if I need to go back and re-word for E6, but something along Lem's suggestions sounds good. -nyan
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  35. @nyan okay thank you for responding, again I see the point there -emilien.raggi
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  36. @cna984 you might be looking at the "Ep. Stats" table which shows you the raw stats from the episode (where the top teams are all Daenerys/Drogon pair owners), where Huge Harry Potter Fan leads with 3918. This is mostly informational.

    The scores used for standings are in the "Ep. Roto" table - these are the roto-percentile scores where you are awarded based on the percentile rank of your stats for the week (from 0-100). delet this is the leader this week with 785 in that.

    "Categories" shows the sum of all your roto-percentile scores from every episode. And "Roto" is the same roto-percentiles, but organized in what you scored week-to-week.

    Sorry this is confusing, there's definitely a better UI that could be used to present this but it kind of got lost in building all the different views.
    -nyan
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  37. You can see that the highest ranking teams in episode five scored over 3800 in that episode by having both dany and drogon on their team. But in the standings no one is over 3500 points which suggests that the episode 5 totals are mismatched between the two. -cna984
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  38. I was scrolling through the wiki and saw that someone counted this. Initially I thought this was a bit iffy since Boros has not been mentioned at all since S4 (six years ago - whew!), and Cersei's Queensguard seemed to have gotten a makeover at some point (or maybe they just rebranded to the Mountain's armor style). I'm not sure that Boros is still a member of the Queensguard at this point, but there's probably not a definitive answer here since the writers apparently don't care that there existed a world with Houses and names. Same thing basically happened with all of Daenerys' bloodriders.

    I'm good with counting this either way, if there were any other opinions.
    -nyan
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  39. @emilien.raggi Drogon's (and the other dragons') point separation would have come from them independently flying around the battlefield and causing destruction without a dragonrider, which happened in all of S2-7 before this. But the show just didn't pan out that way for S8, Jon/Dany ended up doing nothing besides dragon-riding. -nyan
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  40. The formation is 2 groups of 25x6. Image 2 is counting the formation closer to the gate, which is partially covered by the flames in Image 3. Image 3 counts the formation furthest from the gate, which is X'd out on the left side of Image 2. -nyan
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  41. @cna984 do you have a screenshot or team that you see this on? -nyan
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  42. I'm wondering why in "Sellswords" the points for cumulative standings points are less than the episode 5 points alone. Did this fail to update? -cna984
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  43. Isn't this counting the same group of 150 twice? It looks like the 2nd and 3rd pictures are the same group from different angles -coreymarkhembree
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  44. I get that we have to be consistent with episode 3 and the rest of the season and the higher price and early pick with daenerys but again this doesn’t make sence with the whole idea implemented before the season, removing the special and adding drogon as a character, plus the fact of two characters getting kill points for the same death -emilien.raggi
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  45. How can two things get kill points!
    Either the dragon killed them or the rider did.
    Also I thought you changed it so there were not to have mass killing points because of last year - were going to make it like 10 kills equal 1 because of last year.

    But truly how do you get two kills. If two people stabbed the same person would both get points or the person that did the killing blow.

    Please review the logic that kill points should be awarded to both. The dragon did the actual killing. Correct!!!
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  46. Yeah, Daenerys ends up being a superset of the dragon which does not make her character as interesting for the game. I would say the balance comes from Daenerys costing more or being drafted much earlier than the dragons. You could get DrogonKills at #8 pick or DrogonKills+Politics+Feels at #1 pick. -nyan
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  47. Even with this opinion, the special scoring was removed and drogon made a draftable character by its own for this particular reason. Knowing this would happen a lot of us would have choose Dany and not the dragon, knowing she will also get the political points or the lines. The power of drogon resides in his Barbecuing skills. Yes Dany rides him but except from the decision of killing, drogon is the one spitting fire. The skill od Daenerys resides in riding the dragon not aiming, nor increasing his power or anything else. Decision only. Feels like commanded kills to be objective. Coming out third of the episode wouldnt be bad especially leading in other categories where we know starting from this season that she wouldn't be a serial contender for the killing category -emilien.raggi
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  48. The scenes can be asymmetrical, there's been a few instances where the moment has meant much more for one character than the other. Personally I thought Tyrion delivered a much more emotional performance here. But you could definitely make an argument for Jaime. -nyan
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  49. I like this for feels of the week but Jaime doesn’t get as many points as Tyrion? -playabills
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  50. *hopefully meet their end haha -playabills
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  51. Yeah the "objects" term is pretty subjective, but if clarified such as above, makes sense. -nicky.xchen1388
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  52. As I see it, if people (or animals) are being _killed_, it is a _kill_ - as which these events have been scored. Now, if people are dead, their bodies become corpses which can be more easily regarded as plain objects. I know many philosophical schools might voice multiple objections to all the statements I made in the preceding sentences, but in my opinion it does make more sense like that especially for the scoring system.

    "Stuff that has never been alive or is not alive anymore, being burned in non-combat situations"?
    "Unlively objects burned in non-combat situations"?
    "Objects burned in non-combat situations (kills do not count)"?
    -Lem Lemoncake
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  53. he still knows nothing 😕 -Lem Lemoncake
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  54. F -redcatscar
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  55. wow, dany.. how could you?? -will.reich
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  56. f -will.reich
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  57. Attached an image, it appears the same one she wears to the Feast of Winterfell. https://fantasora.com/event/4642 -nyan
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  58. Even without dialogue, you can really feel Cersei's pain from the multitude of micro-expressions here. Bravo to Lena Headey for delivering a masterclass of acting! -nyan
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  59. I worry there's a slippery slope that we can say even the massacre of all the civilians starts to be "non-combat" - it is basically execution style, just that Varys' is more formal and King's Landing is chaotic. -nyan
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  60. This was a little difficult to capture in screencaps as the damn civilians kept running away from the fire instead of standing still for nice and easy counting. The general heuristic I used was that the last pixel we see of the character is being engulfed by the fire on-screen - if they are able to run off-screen before the flames hit, they were not counted as kills. -nyan
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  61. Eff this scene in particular. -nyan
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  62. "Objects" :D What plane of narration/diegesis analysis are we talking? -Lem Lemoncake
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  63. DO IT ALREADY FFS 🤦 -Lem Lemoncake
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  64. Now this is a nice way to score that scene for Tyrion! But I think it shouldn't be counted as a "Funny Line" for Tyrion as well, since it was delivered by the soldier. Tyrion set it up and it was centered around him, so he was kind of responsible for the "Ridiculously Funny Moment" here, but not the "Funny Line", isn't it? -Lem Lemoncake
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  65. Should be scored for the unknown Unsullied soldier who apparently bested his commander in common tongue class 💁‍♀️ -Lem Lemoncake
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  66. Amazingly, the budget seems to have run out here and there is not a single person rendered on any of the ships that Drogon burns down, aside from Euron's boat where every on-screen person seems to have jumped off before Euron (who survived). -nyan
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  67. tbf @will.reich some all-time great brazzers plots have been started on much less. -nyan
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  68. "No, you're also my aunt." -will.reich
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  69. I agree w/ you very much. Tyrion, Davos & Jon had no control over the forces. Grey Worm acted like the leader and led the troops to take the actions that they took (pillage & plunder) -will.reich
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  70. This scene was biggest feels for me. Runner up was Arya calling The Hound "Sandor," but really only in the context of their relationship. If you took this episode as a standalone, Tyrion had The Feels hands down -will.reich
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  71. Dany 100% deserves ponts b/c Drogon acts 100% at her command. With that said, he's such a good boye. -will.reich
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  72. *word. oops -will.reich
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  73. Hand on the arm/solemn look was crucial for this moment, but you can't argue w/ last moment! -will.reich
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  74. When he says “it was me” and varys nods I think deserves points for both -ryanmcfarlane09
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  75. Ah man did I word this one badly again? I wanted to give the dragons minor points for like... roasting their own meat or going Hulk Smash on a wagon for funsies. But by the way it was written I can see this qualifying, I just wanted to point out Drogon already got 10pts for this as a kill. -nyan
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  76. not that i'm disagreeing, hehe -palecekc
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  77. Winner... Daenerys is horrible, haha -palecekc
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  78. If I had Daenerys on my team I’d feel pretty cheated if she didn’t get all the points. No one watched that episode and thought “Damn! Dragon’s gone mad killing everybody.”. -conor_finlay
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  79. Whats my prize for winnning the league?
    -mattpanz16
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  80. My personal feeling is that Daenerys deserves a lion's share of the credit for the damage Drogon causes in this episode, which feels very different from S8E3. E3 had Drogon doing what Drogon would've done anyway (regardless of whether Dany was riding). In contrast, all the destruction of E5 is clearly happening under Daenerys' command - it'd feel weird for her not to be the "winner" of the episode by a longshot.

    Thus you can see the dilemma of going full-on nerf and not giving Dany any credit for her dragons. Their abilities are very intrinsically tied to her character.
    -nyan
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  81. The guy on the left is so distracted by Grey Worm's kill and gets completely whacked the next second: https://i.imgur.com/5bzPOXP.jpg -nyan
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  82. I also really loved this, and the line after - "Alright, then. Let it be fear."

    It's not all sad, it's a bit of vengeance as well - but emotionally for met this was the most powerful one.
    -nyan
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  83. Counted 2x for Sandor's "confronted by fire" special. Per precedent from the previous episode, this wouldn't have really counted from the fight (there was no fire/burning in the Red Keep area they were fighting in), but is scored since they meet their end in the fire below. -nyan
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  84. It's hard to say who is really "leading" the Northern/Daenerys forces on the ground, as Tyrion is hanging back, Davos has no role, and Jon is unable to control his own troops (and isn't issuing many commands). This was given to Grey Worm on the basis of being the emotional leader who first spears the surrendered Lannister soldier and starts the chaos. -nyan
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  85. Would be between this, Arya/Hound and Jaime/Cercei for me. Maybe even all three. -conor_finlay
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  86. I rated this one as the Feels of the Week. What did people think? -nyan
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  87. "Oh don't worry, I just need you to put a boat next to this cave and no big deal if not, nobody is even going to use it" -nyan
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  88. Wasn't sure how on-the-margins this was. Varys has a decent last line for sure, Tyrion just has like.. a solemn look. Which is how 80% of the character interactions ended this episode. -nyan
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  89. Also, Varys’ is actually the 9th person to know. -conor_finlay
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  90. Yes those were awarded here: https://fantasora.com/event/4318 -nyan
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  91. quote* -conor_finlay
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  92. Surely if 8 people knowing makes it information, the 8th person to know (Varys) discovers info and not a secret? Varys’ quot afterwards kinda voids these points nah? -conor_finlay
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  93. Should the NK get special pts for reanimating Qhono? -leighannlarkin21
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  94. There are no words to describe how epic that is. -bcharleshayes
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  95. the goodest boye -thejackboyd
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  96. I dunno if this was a warm/fuzzy moment for the characters, but I’d say it was for the viewers seeing the 2 of them on the road together again. -conor_finlay
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  97. That is the death of his lover, whom he had made plans to have a life together with. The fact that the Unsullied training cracks enough to show any sort of emotion is major feels on his part. Incidentally, I expect him to die from self-destructive grief-murder spree in the next battle. Also a basic google search of “grey worm missandei beheaded” brings up multiple articles of fan reaction and feels to the death, and specifically feels towards Grey Worm. -davidagster
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  98. Shouldn’t Grey Worm get feels points for this? -davidagster
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  99. This is now just a game for 2nd Place -trebegin
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  100. Well, my season is fucked -imonaship12
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