Matchup: Crows Before Hoes vs Hold this dick for Ep 4

Crows Before Hoes (lexithumann)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Wine	Thrones	Deaths	Special
Daenerys Targaryen	#1	22	6	3	5	2	0	6
Davos Seaworth	#19	11	0	0	10	1	0	0
Beric Dondarrion	#36	2	0	0	0	0	2	0
Lyanna Mormont	#37	2	0	0	0	0	2	0
Olyvar	#54	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Wight Army (Extras)	#18	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		37	6	3	15	3	4	6

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Wine	Sex	Thrones	Special	Feels
Jaime Lannister	#8	56	0	6	20	10	2	0	18
Tormund Giantsbane	#11	52	3	9	10	5	0	12	13
Gendry	#26	13	3	0	5	0	0	0	5
Varys	#29	8	3	0	0	0	2	3	0
Rhaegar Targaryen	#44	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Greasy-haired White Walkers This is a clean-shaven White Walker with long greasy hair, one f the Night King's lieutenants. He was present at the dragon battle at the Frozen Lake.	#47	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		129	9	15	35	15	4	15	36

Gendry receives high marks on his peer reviews after the Battle of Winterfell, and he is legitimized as a non-bastard and named Lord Baratheon of Storm's End.

Daenerys Targaryen: "I think you should be Lord of Storm's End.
Gendry: "That can't be, I'm a bastard."
Daenerys: "No, you are Lord Gendry Baratheon of Storm's End. The lawful son of Robert Baratheon. Because that is what I have made you." (New Title)

34:57 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys' pleas to Jon were effective, convincing him to take her side over the Stark family's in pledging the unconditional loyalty of the Northern troops. (Convincing Argument)

50:36 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon gives charge of Ghost to Tormund, to take him back to his natural habitat north of the Wall. (New Follower/Prisoner)

51:22 (+3) Varys:

Varys learns of Jon's parentage through the game of secret discovery telephone.

Varys: "How many others know?"
Tyrion: "Including us? Eight."
Varys: "Well, then it's not a secret anymore. It's information." (Secret Discovery)

Given the quote, I think the buck stops here with respect to awarding this further down the chain. -nyan

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Surely if 8 people knowing makes it information, the 8th person to know (Varys) discovers info and not a secret? Varys’ quot afterwards kinda voids these points nah? -conor_finlay

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2019 May 10 nyan likes this
quote* -conor_finlay

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2019 May 10
Also, Varys’ is actually the 9th person to know. -conor_finlay

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59:07 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys ignores Varys' pleas and proceeds with her plan to take King's Landing by force.

Varys: "I beg you, Your Grace. Do not destroy the city you came to save. Do not become what you have always struggled to defeat."
Daenerys: "Do you believe we're here for a reason, Lord Varys? I'm here to free the world from tyrants. That is my destiny and I will serve it, no matter the cost." (Executive Decision)

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

14:47 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund demands Jon finish off his horn of wine in front of a celebratory crowd at the Feast of Winterfell.

Tormund: "We have to celebrate our victory."
Jon: "Vomiting is not celebrating."
Tormund: "...yes, it is." (Funny Line)

15:42 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime and Brienne play a drinking game of guesses.

Jaime: "You... are an only child."
Brienne: "I told you I was."
Jaime: "You didn't."
Brienne: "I did."
Jaime: "I surmised it." (Funny Line)

18:54 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

"Now, which one of you cowards shit in my pants?" (Funny Line)

25:24 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Brienne: "It's the first thing I learnt when I came to the North. Keep your fire going. Every time you leave the room, put more wood on."
Jaime: "... You know the first thing I learned in the North? I hate the fucking North." (Funny Line)

31:40 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys demands subservience from Jon to keep his Targaryen identity from his family.

Jon: "You are my Queen. Nothing will change that. And they are my family. We can live together."
Daenerys: "We can. I've just told you how." (Threat)

47:26 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon: "Rhaegal needs to heal. He doesn't need me weighing him down."
Tormund: "You weigh as much as two fleas fucking." (Witty Insult)

Glasses of Wine Consumed

9:18 (+5) Gendry:

Gendry takes a drink before asking the Hound if he's seen Arya. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

9:52 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime drinks as Gendry scoots past him and Brienne in the aisle. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

11:40 (+5) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys drinks as the crowd celebrates Gendry's promotion to Lord Baratheon of Storm's End. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

12:24 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Brienne and Jaime share a drink at the Feast of Winterfell.

Jaime: "We've fought dead things and lived to talk about it.If this isn't the time to drink, when is?" (Glass of Wine Consumed)

12:31 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund glugs straight from the pitcher during the Feast of Winterfell. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

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13:31 (+5) Davos Seaworth:

Davos is handed a cup by Tyrion as they worry about the mysteries of the Lord of Light and the political infighting situation. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

15:02 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund drinks from his horn as the crowd toasts both Daenerys and Arya. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

16:25 (+5) Davos Seaworth:

Davos drinks in the foreground as Tormund regales the crowd with the legends of Jon Snow. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

25:41 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime pours himself a cup and drinks in Brienne's bedchambers as he jealously questions her about Tormund Giantsbane. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

39:01 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime and Tyrion drink after toasting to Jaime's new relationship with Brienne. "To climbing mountains." (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Acts of Intercourse

19:48 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

After being spurned by Brienne, Tormund rebounds with a Northern girl who fancies him at the Feast of Winterfell.

Northern girl: " You can touch me. I'm not afraid of Wildlings."
Tormund: "Maybe you should be."
(Act of Intercourse)

27:20 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime fumbles awkwardly in his first attempts at flirting with someone who is not a sibling, but ultimately succeeds in wooing Brienne with the 'ol "my it's quite hot in here". (Act of Intercourse)

65:39 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime sits brooding in front of the fireplace after a 2nd night with Brienne, reflecting on how one just can't go back to non-incest after hitting that high-grade sibling kush. (Act of Intercourse)

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A Game of Thrones

8:54 (+1) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys sits at the head table during the celebratory feast at Winterfell. (Basic Seat)

10:11 (+1) Davos Seaworth:

Davos sits and observes nervously as Daenerys calls out Gendry for his Baratheon heritage. (Basic Seat)

14:53 (+1) Varys:

Varys sits in a chair at the edge of the head table as Tormund and the hall give a toast. "To Daenerys, the Dragon Queen!" (Basic Seat)

15:20 (+1) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys sits back down to brood after toasting to Arya Stark, the Hero of Winterfell (Basic Seat)

38:29 (+1) Jaime Lannister:

Tyrion sits with Jaime in front of a fireplace in Winterfell, as Tyrion ribs Jaime on his newfound romance with Brienne. (Basic Seat)

51:33 (+1) Varys:

Varys sits down with Tyrion in the cabin below deck, discussing the secret of Jon's parentage. (Basic Seat)

65:17 (+1) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime sits on a chair in front of the fireplace after a 2nd night with Brienne, reflecting on how non-incest just doesn't really do it for him. (Basic Seat)

Deaths

7:07 (+2) Beric Dondarrion:

Beric's body lies atop a funeral pyre after the Battle of Winterfell. (Dead Body Appearance)

7:17 (+2) Lyanna Mormont:

Jon approaches Lyanna Mormont's body as they light the funeral pyres to honor the dead after the Battle of Winterfell. (Dead Body Appearance)

Special

14:55 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys switches up to a burgundy dress at the Feast of Winterfell (Special)

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19:05 (+12) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund eagerly stares at Brienne as she excuses herself to take a piss. His 3-second gaze is unfortunately interrupted by Jaime. (Special)

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Also would “icy fucks” count as a witty insult? Or does it have to be said directly to the target of the insult? -conor_finlay

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2019 May 7
Doesn't have to be said at anyone, and for Tormund these kind of half-bleed into funny lines. I did add the "shit in my pants" line right after "icy fucks", here: https://fantasora.com/event/4628

I could go either way on this icy fucks line. -nyan

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2019 May 8
I feel like he definitely does more than 3 points worth of staring here? He stares straight into her eyes for 5/6 seconds as he walks over to her. He’s speaking to everyone but his eyes are fixed right on hers and he also happens to be talking about “looking into blue eyes”. His second stare is about 5/6 seconds aswell, from the end of his laugh to the moment Jaime steps in front of him and his eyes move to him. -conor_finlay

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2019 May 8
I know he doesn’t get points for just looking at Brienne but these two stares are definitely more in line with the stares he was scored for in episode 2. -conor_finlay

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2019 May 8
That was my bad, I meant to mark this as 3 seconds and 9 points. This is the portion that you can see Tormund's eyes during the stare in the screenshot, between Brienne's "pardon me for a moment" and Jaime interrupting. The 5s is about right if you include the beginning where we just see the back of his head. Don't feel too strongly about the cutoff here, call it even at 4s? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's subjective but I feel that before this with the "icy fucks" he is mostly jovial and talking to her like a person instead of objectifying her? -nyan

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2019 May 8
Yeah that’s fair in regard to the “icy fucks” part. I’d still argue that he should get the whole 5/6 seconds for the second stars as we can still see he’s looking at her even though we can’t see his eyes the whole time. Ultimately it’s up to you though. -conor_finlay

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44:16 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys debuts a new grey-paneled jacket with a red cape. (Special)

61:32 (+3) Varys:

Varys: "He (Jon Snow) is a man, which makes him more appealing to the lords of Westeros, whose support we are going to need."
Tyrion: "Joffrey was a man. I don't think a cock is a true qualification, as I'm sure you'd agree." (Special)

The Feels

16:44 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund continually splashes wine EVERYWHERE as he regales the crowd with the legend of Jon Snow. (Ridiculously Funny Moment)

19:48 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund's heart is broken as he regales his story to Clegane. "And after all that, this fucker comes north and takes her from me. Just takes her, like that. I mean it, Clegane. My heart is broken." (Sad Feels)

23:32 (+5) Gendry:

Gendry proposes to Arya.

"I don't know how to be Lord of anything. I hardly know how to use a fork. All I know is that you're beautiful, and I love you, and none of it will be worth anything if you're not with me. So be with me. Be my wife. Be the Lady of Storm's End." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

48:32 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon and Tormund say their final farewells, as Tormund leaves to take the Free Folk home beyond the Wall.

Tormund: "It isn't home. We need room to wander. I'll take them back through Castle Black as soon as the winter storms pass. Back where we belong." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

56:50 (+15) Jaime Lannister:

After two days of playing house with Brienne, Jaime receives news of the events in King's Landing and reflects on where his true passions lie.

"You think I'm a good man? I pushed a boy out a tower window, crippled him for life for Cersei. I strangled my cousin with my own hands just to get back to Cersei. I would have murdered every man, woman and child in Riverrun for Cersei. She's hateful. And so am I." (Sad Feels)

65:09 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

After two nights in bed with Brienne, Jaime lies awake and reflects on how non-incest just really doesn't do it for him. (I've made a huge mistake.)

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Matchup: Crows Before Hoes vs Hold this dick for Ep 4

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