Event: Osha - Act of Intercourse (Acts of Intercourse)

Episode 4: Book of the Stranger at 45:54

45:54 (+5) Osha:

Osha gets her hands in Ramsay's pants. "Same thing men always want. And when they really want it, they give it a bath first." (Act of Intercourse)

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I'm unclear on what the bar for "sex" and the rulebook doesn't clarify. This certainly would pass my definition but I don't know the precedent. -jedjackoway

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2016 May 17
Oooh, this will be fun. I don't think we've codified what sex actually is. I suppose it starts with defining what the the meaning of the word 'is' is...

The couple of precedents we have so far:
* Implied scenes that cut away before any action are counted (Slavers in this episode)
* Implied scenes with characters in bed after the fact are counted (Daario, Loras numerous times)
* Theon/Yara's first meeting in S2E2 was counted, but this was in the wild west of scorekeeping: http://fantasora.com/event/801

Would like to hear everyone's take on where the cutoff (??) should be. -nyan

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2016 May 17
My stance would be that if Theon/Yara's meeting counts, this counts.

I think there's more than enough evidence that there was sexual contact and it's just a question of whether or not it was the right sort of sexual contact to score. -jedjackoway

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2016 May 17
Well, it did end with some pretty intense penetration. -taylorreneegoodrich

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2016 May 17 nyan, Lem Lemoncake, jedjackoway like this
But in all honesty I don't really think it counts. I see how it could count, especially with the Theon/Yara precedent, but Ramsay doesn't seem like he actually had sex in mind. If he wanted to he could have slept with her. He was just trying to mess with her mind and then kill her, as per usual. I think what would be more of a precedent is the scene with Theon where the two chicks are getting him all hot and bothered before Ramsay cuts off his manhood. I have no idea if that counted or not though. -taylorreneegoodrich

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2016 May 17
We saw that Osha got farther than the slavers, comparing it to other events in this episode, at least. -cjcookart

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2016 May 17
@taylor Theon's torture scene is another good example. We actually never did a rewatch for S3 so it hasn't been scored, but it has similarities to this one, though it ends up a good deal more sexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZLQxu9aHdc

The game and scoring should continue evolving better definitions, so don't automatically take the S2 points as evidence that this should also count for sex. Instead I would use it as a thought experiment - the two situations are very similar, so whichever way I feel about scoring one, should probably apply to the other. If I feel that they should be scored differently, what is the criteria that differentiates them?

I would also say that, while the on-screen intimacy shown here definitely feels more "deserving" than the Slavers' scene, the game still works as long as the rules are clear and consistent, e.g. if we decide on "full penetration" or "skin-on-skin contact of reproductive organs" as criteria. It can end up excluding a few worthy events, but also adds an extra element of detail to be on the lookout for. The intricacies of wine drinking and the refill mechanics are my personal favorite examples of precise scorekeeping that makes for a more fun fantasy-watching experience, compared to a more common-sense approach that eyeballs how many drinks were consumed. -nyan

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2016 May 17 cjcookart likes this
We'll go with "direct contact with reproductive organs", which this will count for. This verbage has been added to the rulebook. -nyan

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