Event: Jaime Lannister - Act of Intercourse (Acts of Intercourse)

43:08 (+10) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime and Cersei get it on after hot and heavy dirty talk about the power of House Lannister and destroying their enemies. "They've made us both stronger, all of them. They have no idea how strong we are. No idea what we're going to do to them. We've always been together. We'll always be together." (Act of Intercourse)

Um, since when is making out sex? -alicehanners

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2016 Jun 1
Scored under the interpretation that it was implied. They definitely didn't go as far as hopping into bed though, so this is probably one of the weaker examples of implied sex. Will probably come down to a judgment call on whether players think they did it or not. -nyan

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2016 Jun 1
If they showed Jamie heading out to head his new army, I'd disagree with this call, but while not explicit, I certainly took it to be understood that there was implied offscreen sex. -dopeghoti

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2016 Jun 1
if nudity gets scores as sex then I don't see why this can't be. -klov3r

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2016 Jun 1
Maybe you can apply the wine-rule here: If "something sexual" happens and it's not explicitly stated that it happened otherwise, intercourse is implied :D -Lem Lemoncake

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2016 Jun 1
I think the implication should have to do with how the scene ends, and whether they are on a trajectory towards sex. If the heavy makeout session gets interrupted by a knock on the door, then we can assume nothing happened. But in this case they're in their private chambers and continuing to suck face when we cut to black, so it feels like a reasonable implication. -nyan

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2016 Jun 2 dopeghoti and emilien.raggi like this
Haha that could be an example of "explicitly stated that sex didn't happen" :D However, I thought making out and kissing always counts, as does nudity - no matter if genital penetration or naked body rubbing happened. -Lem Lemoncake

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2016 Jun 2
Hopefully this will become clearer when I can make a detailed breakdown for each scoring event. The sex category gets 1 pt EACH for: sex itself (incl. implied), each boob, butts, frontal nudity. So that is why Daenerys temple-burning scene gets points for the nudity, even though no sex happened: http://fantasora.com/event/2356

Earlier this season we defined direct contact with reproductive organs as the threshold for explicit sex: http://fantasora.com/event/2401

For implicit sex, we've never defined really defined it, so that's what this discussion is about.

Here's an idea that we could add for Ruleset 4.0: we can further break up scoring and add an additional point for on-screen gettin' it in. So this and other implied scenes would only count 1pt, Osha's would only be 1pt, Sam's "Oh.. oh.. oh my" with Gilly would get 2 pts - 1 for sex and 1 for penetration. -nyan

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2016 Jun 2 Ser Vincent likes this
I agree that there should be a sub-point system of "intercourse". Because if we are now simply assuming that the twins engaged in intercourse off camera, we are opening up the point system to a number of assumed acts of whatever (intercourse related, kill related, wine related). For example, we didn't see Sam drink any wine during the dinning scene. But isn't it safe to say that he probably drank wine prior or during the course of his meal? -Tose

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2016 Jun 3
The criteria for each category is different, and there is some balance in mind when deciding how strict they are. "Cups on the table" would be a close equivalent to "making out in a private room", but as @Tose says we would start giving away way too many wine points (these wine points would also feel "cheap" compared to characters who are doing actual on-screen drinking). For sex, the easier implied criteria has been fine since explicit sex scenes are fairly rare on the show. -nyan

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2016 Jun 3 Laxis likes this

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