Event: Jaime Lannister - (Political Wins)

0:00 (+0) Jaime Lannister:

Convincing Randyll Tarly to join their side.

We know from the trailers that the Tarlys do fight on their side. And it's Jamie's talk with him that pulls him over.

submitted by jimmy.tague (rejected: will count upon confirmation of Tarly fighting for the Lannisters)

We don't know from that scene, though. There could be more scenes with Tarly. He seemed unconvinced to me. -alicehanners

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2017 Jul 24 ssantise, bookworm13457, jedjackoway, nyan like this
Just look at his face. It's obvious he will align with the crown. They won't have another scene of someone convincing him. That was the scene. There's no point to even have a scene of him trying to be convinced if he wasn't going to join Cersei's side. Randyll is even being evaluated for his own political wins having been offered to be Jamie's General and Warden of the South. -jimmy.tague

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2017 Jul 24
Tarly is last seen at 18:14.

http://imgur.com/XPBlnOQ

The face of a clearly convinced man right there -bookworm13457

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2017 Jul 24 jedjackoway and nyan like this
Yep, we'll wait for more explicit confirmation on which side Tarly chooses. But Jaime will get the convince points if/when that happens. -nyan

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2017 Jul 24 emilien.raggi likes this
A screenshot doesn't do it justice. You have to look at the video. It's the pondering look like "ya he's on to something here." Regardless, there's literally photo evidence of the Tarly and Lannisters fighting side by side.
https://images.moviepilot.com/images/c_limit,q_auto:good,w_600/j5s0ovrhxphdfuf3boc9/credit-hbo.jpg
It is obviously Jamie's promises that convince Randyll. -jimmy.tague

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2017 Jul 24
Trailers should not count. If it's in the trailer and you are asking for points, assuming that we will find out later in the series, then just wait until later in the series when it is confirmed and award the points then. Just like how some characters like Harald Karstark who we assumed died in the Battle of the Bastards weren't given death points until last week when it was confirmed -hkeseyan

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2017 Jul 24 ssantise and nyan like this
I agree if we pull trailers into the mix, then we open the door for all sorts of nonsense. -ssantise

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2017 Jul 24
Also can make a rule that content that hasnt aired yet is not discussed on here? Not saying Tarly os a big deal but fuck spoilers -hindsight44

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2017 Jul 24 ssantise and nyan like this
Yes, nothing from trailers will count as evidence for present scoring. One, a lot of viewers (including me!) avoid any trailer watching so it's slight spoilers, and two because it's future episode content - so if it's happening in the future it'll be scored in the future. -nyan

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2017 Jul 24
jeez I feel like Jon this past episode talking to the northern lords. I don't care about the points its about the evidence at hand. The shows not going to hold everyones hand and explain every little detail. You gotta look at the context..the set up...and the motivation. -jimmy.tague

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2017 Jul 24
jeez I feel like Jon this past episode talking to the northern lords. I don't care about the points its about the evidence at hand. The shows not going to hold everyones hand and explain every little detail. You gotta look at the context..the set up...and the motivation. -jimmy.tague

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2017 Jul 24
I don't know why that doubleposted. -jimmy.tague

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2017 Jul 24
The point is there is no evidence right now. We are all pretty sure that the Tarlys will ally with the Lannisters, but this is Game of Thrones, you never know - the worst-case scenario is that the truth will be revealed very shortly this season. Going off of the rulebook, a last-episode rule that applies to kills but can liekly be applied to this

"Last-Episode exception: If the ambiguous kill/death happens in the last episode of the season, the scorekeeper makes a judgment call. The threshold should be that the ambiguous death is "highly likely".

Rationale: The worst-case for previous episodes deaths is that they are just recorded in the subsequent episode when confirmation is given, but no such resolution is possible for finale cliffhangers. This exception is introduced to resolve that for cases where the death is extremely likely to have occured.
Precedents: Brienne's kill of Stannis Baratheon in S5E10"

If this was the last episode of the season, the assumptions would be more justified. I think we'll find out as soon as the next episode what the Tarlys ended up deciding. -hkeseyan

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2017 Jul 24 jimmy.tague, jake.kmiech, hindsight44, jedjackoway, 2 others like this
I see I see thanks for the comparison. -jimmy.tague

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2017 Jul 24

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