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Bran Stark:
+1 when he tells/teaches someone something he had learned while greenseeing / tapping into the weirwood
submitted by hkeseyan (rejected: New special added)
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It feels like this is well-covered between the warging special, and the points for secret discoveries? -nyan
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I was thinking about the cases where they don't explicitly show his eyes in the warging state or actually shoot a scene with Bran back in time - since they appear to avoid doing that a lot recently, for the sake of time in the show. but we clearly know he warged to get that information
For example, Bran saw and knows about Hardhome and Sansa's wedding night... he didn't get points last week for discovery of the secret about Hardhome. These things may or may not be considered secrets, but this is pretty much the only thing Bran does in the show, and he is the only character that can do it and get this information this way. I think he should get points for that, just because the directors don't always shoot those scenes for budget / time's sake, it shouldn't take away from him having done it, right? -hkeseyan
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Are we getting to the point where Bran's points are becoming automatic though? True it is all that he does, but then giving points whenever he does anything warg-related becomes sort of predictable/boring.
It is true that the Sansa thing is not really a secret discovery that can be scored for. Then again, is finding that our and revealing it to Sansa something that really gives Bran political power? It is just sort of a creepy thing.
I would suggest something along the lines of Bran giving off this distant, stoned-out sort of vibe like his conversation with Sansa. Not quite sure how to codify that into a special yet, it seems that part of his personality is only starting to become apparent. -nyan
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I see your point about it just being automatic.
The stoned-out vibe is probably something that comes with being the 3ER - we kind of saw it with the old 3ER. They don't react emotionally because they aren't surprised by anything any more (interesting that the scene with Bran was immediately after Littlefinger's speech about just this)
If you want to codify that vibe, it could be something about how he shows no emotion in the presence of a character showing clear emotion over the same situation. Could use better wording - but basically something about how Sansa cried and went over to hug Bran while Bran had a blank stare and didn't even extend his arms to hug her -hkeseyan
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Bran deserves points for titles and politics for telling her he is the three eyed raven. -talindsey
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@talindsey Bran got points for being promoted the to the three eyed raven last season when Benjen mentioned it -hkeseyan
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Oh I didn't know that it continued from seasons. This is my first time doing this. do you believe he should get points for telling sansa about her past as a warg special? -talindsey
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I do think Bran should get points for scenes where he clearly used his warg ability but were not shown off-screen. I submitted a request for a special and we started a small discussion here if you would like to contribute: http://fantasora.com/event/3280 -hkeseyan
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I just directed you to the same site lol, it's early in the day. Anyway I think he should get points for those, but I like @nyan's counterpoint too -hkeseyan
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I think the on-screen aspect is important for the special. For example if we allow information that was gleamed from off-screen warging then we would have to allow the same for Melissandre who got her information from off-screen consulting with the fire. Then we would have to change the rules for Sansa special where we she was crying off screen. And it goes on and on. -ssantise
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@ssantise Point taken. I like @nyan's suggestion better than my original one. -hkeseyan
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I'm thinking of going with the "cold emotionless reaction" as a new special, something like:
"+Special points when reacting cold and emotionlessly to a normally sensitive or emotional situation"
Slightly open-ended, but I think it's reasonable to eye test. I would include telling Sansa about watching her be raped by Ramsay in this, along with Sansa's reunion hug.
However! before officially doing that I'd like to throw out a dark horse special idea that I think could be more fun (if rarer). Basically it would be to transfer Sansa's ability to him:
+Special points for scenes where he cries (or smiles/audible laughter?)
Like what I've been looking for with Theon, it would be nice to root for Specials around these characters re-humanizing themselves, rather than continuing to debase themselves as cowards and robotic weirdwood-stoners. This could also turn into a Rickon-style special (+Special for scenes with speaking lines), where it seems laughably easy to achieve, but ends up blueballing all the owners because it literally never happens for the rest of the series. -nyan
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@nyan HAHA. I really like the dark horse. Anytime Bran shows emotion we give him points. nice. -ssantise
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Would the dark horse include him being visibly terrified? -hkeseyan
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Fear would be a good one as well. I've been trying to think of black and white criteria for evaluating emotions, for sadness we'd count for visible tears, happiness could be audible laughter or a smile with teeth. Not sure for fear, there's a spectrum between being alarmed, to being scared, to being poop-your-pants terrified. -nyan
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For fear: audible gasping, heavy breathing, or screams. Just like when he went into a vision by himself and saw the Night King grab him -hkeseyan
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I like that, I think audible scream is a pretty good proxy. So it'd be something like:
Bran: "+Special points for every scene he breaks out of his tree-like trance and exhibits an emotion (visible tears, smiles showing teeth, audible laughter, audible screams)" -nyan
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I'll be honest though, I think we'll be lucky to even get this special to happen once all season. -hkeseyan
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