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Tycho Nestoris:
Tycho Nestoris reaches an agreement on behalf of the Iron Bank to grant Cersei an extension on the Iron Throne's loans, after Cersei convinces him that the alternative of "investing" in Daenerys Targaryen's regime would be unwise.
(Deals Brokered)
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Hmmm, he is the intermediary, but it seems Cersei did all the negotiation and convincing here (she got the Convince points for this). I suppose Tycho technically makes the deal just by being a messenger, but he didn't quite "do" any negotiating? -nyan
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He sailed all the way to King's Landing, something which he had never done before, indicating that he was providing some room for a deal being brokered. The last time we saw him, the crown had to send Mace to Braavos to meet with him, and he was not willing to budge. He also showed leniency and room for negotiation/persuasion, a quality of a willing negotiator, which we may not have seen if Cersei went to Braavos and appeared in front of a council of multiple Iron Bankers. -hkeseyan
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Tycho is speaking on behalf of the Iron Bank the same way that Jon or Dany speak on behalf of their army. This rule is specifically for third parties to broker deals between two other characters. Tycho is brokering a deal as a first party, therefore he does not get points regardless if a deal was brokered or not. -ssantise
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This is eerily similair to the "gift" Snafu we had with Euron and Cersei. we will have to wait and see id say.
Side note:Anyone find it weird the Iron Bank is in the slave trade? Braavos as a whole is very anti slavery. I feel like if anything the Iron Bank would back Sany. -hindsight44
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Definitely this is not the Iron Bank of the books with regards to the slave trade. It disappoints me slightly as it seems to cut out some of the conspiracy theories behind the Iron Bank/Faceless Men having a greater, secret agenda going on in the background. -nyan
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@ssantise Tycho does not control The Iron Bank the same way Jon and Dany control their armies. The Iron Bank is subservient to Tycho, Tycho is subservient to The Iron Bank. This would be like Davos or Tyrion speaking on behalf of Jon or Dany. If we want to get bogged down into the details, there is real-life precedent for this, as corporations in the modern day are treated as their own entity.
But who better to explain it than Tywin Lannister himself? See this video from 1:50 to 2:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqIyVtlxbW8
The Iron Bank is its own entity, Tycho is an employee, he is an emissary, a broker for The Iron Bank in the literal sense of the word.
@hindsight44 you make a good point about the "gift" situation with Cersei and Euron. However, we explicitly see in that scene that Cersei declines the offer. Euron responds by explaining clearly that he will resume the talks only when he returns with his end of the deal. In this case, Tycho does not object to Cersei's request.
Another thing is that I think we are putting aside too many opportunities for convincing arguments and negotiations lately, and ignoring the fact that we have a betrayal category. A person's word means so much in Westeros, breaking oaths and loyalty are seen as a very significant event. We have a category just for these events, and we award points for betrayal. I say that unless we see a decline in a deal like this, we should score it as a deal and then see if betrayal occurs later. If Tycho breaks his end of the deal, or if Cersei breaks her end of the deal, that will be a very significant plot point that will be outlined in the show. -hkeseyan
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I would offer Tycho's response as evidence, after Cersei states her case: "Your father's daughter, indeed."
It's not quite an explicit yes, but is a favorable response to everything Cersei just laid out. This is as opposed to Cersei's E1 response to Euron, which was an explicit "No." -nyan
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