Event: Brienne of Tarth - (Special)

0:00 (+0) Brienne of Tarth:

I still believe that Brienne of Tarth should receive a special point for when she knocked down Podrick, and Tormund Giantsbane gives his usual lustful stare and comments "Oh, you're a lucky man". If that's not referencing her attractiveness then I don't know what is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD3Hzz2uU5c

submitted by mdaijon (rejected)

People frequently directly call her a man, say she's super manly, etc.

This is actually the opposite: it's Tormund calling her attractive. -jedjackoway

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2017 Aug 1
I see the issue actually. I don't think there's any precedent for somebody non-ironically calling her attractive? -jedjackoway

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2017 Aug 1
She also gets points for comments on her "attractiveness", it's usually in a negative light (sarcastic "Brienne the Beauty"), but for Tormund it's genuine and I think it's fine that his comments count.

However I'd differentiate Tormund commenting on her attractiveness, vs commenting on his attraction to her. -nyan

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2017 Aug 1
If Brienne needs another special, maybe +3 for every practise fight we get to see with her and Pod? -Lem Lemoncake

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2017 Aug 2
And I believe Tormund called Pod a "lucky man" and not Brienne :o -Lem Lemoncake

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2017 Aug 2
There won't be much practicing once the dead arrive.... -hkeseyan

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2017 Aug 2
He obviously was talking to Podric in that scene... direct communication doesn't mean it's not a reference. To my understanding of the rule, and maybe I'm misunderstanding, but when her attractiveness is referenced she gets a point. The special literally says "+1 point every time someone references her size/masculinity/attractiveness". In that situation, Tormund crystal-clearly made a reference to her attractiveness. -mdaijon

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2017 Aug 3
@nyan i see your point... that is very debate-worthy haha but it's still a reference to her attractiveness. Her attractiveness according to Tormund -mdaijon

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2017 Aug 3
My feeling is that we'll restrict this to explicitly talking about her attractiveness, and not comments about how much Tormund is attracted to her. Else every line that Tormund has to or about her could count and it'd be too easy.

So if Tormund says "I fooked a bear once and even she didn't have quads as glorious as yours", he's talking directly about Brienne's attractiveness and it'll count. If Tormund says "Here's the list of unspeakable things I'd do to you, it's longer than Daenerys' list of titles", it's just about his general attraction and would not count.

We can also change the wording to "physical attractiveness" if that helps make it more black and white. The idea originally was for comments like "Brienne the Beauty". -nyan

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2017 Aug 4 jake.kmiech likes this
Understood. Thanks -mdaijon

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2017 Aug 7

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