Matchup: Jorah the Explorah vs White Walker King for President! for Ep 4

UH Linguists Final Season (Let's try this again)

Jorah the Explorah (james.grama)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Wine	Sex	Thrones	Deaths	Special	Feels
Tormund Giantsbane	#21	52	3	9	10	5	0	0	12	13
Gendry	#28	13	3	0	5	0	0	0	0	5
Euron Greyjoy	#5	12	11	0	0	0	1	0	0	0
Qhono	-	2	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0
Eddison Tollett	#37	2	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0
Full-bearded White Walkers This White Walker has a full beard and long hair. He is one of the Night King's Lieutenants.	#44	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Wight Army (Extras)	#12	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Eddard Stark The long-deceased head of House Stark.	-	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		81	17	9	15	5	1	4	12	18

White Walker King for President! (bradley.rentz)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Wine	Sex	Feels
Brienne of Tarth	#16	50	0	25	10	15
Cersei Lannister	#1	8	8	0	0	0
Edmure Tully	#33	0	0	0	0	0
Jaqen H'ghar	#49	0	0	0	0	0
Archmaester Ebrose	#32	0	0	0	0	0
Anguy	#64	0	0	0	0	0
Qyburn	#17	0	0	0	0	0
Robin Arryn	#48	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		58	8	25	10	15

Political Wins

10:52 (+3) Gendry:

Gendry receives high marks on his peer reviews after the Battle of Winterfell, and he is legitimized as a non-bastard and named Lord Baratheon of Storm's End.

Daenerys Targaryen: "I think you should be Lord of Storm's End.
Gendry: "That can't be, I'm a bastard."
Daenerys: "No, you are Lord Gendry Baratheon of Storm's End. The lawful son of Robert Baratheon. Because that is what I have made you." (New Title)

50:36 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon gives charge of Ghost to Tormund, to take him back to his natural habitat north of the Wall. (New Follower/Prisoner)

53:57 (+5) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron and the Iron Fleet ambush Daenerys Targaryen's fleet on their way to Dragonstone, shooting Rhaegal out of the sky from their ship-mounted Scorpions. (Kill of Named Character (Orchestrated))

This was originally scored as a full Kill for Euron but changed to an Orchestrated Kill since there wasn't any on-screen evidence for whether Euron fired any of the killing bolts. https://fantasora.com/event/4581

Note that getting points for what your army does is not generally a score (aside from the Battle Victory), and this is a new category without a lot of precedents. In general it feels like Euron is deserving of this since Euron plans out the ambush and Rhaegal is caught unawares, e.g. is a sitting duck. We wouldn't want to count this category for say, every character killed by the Night King in the Battle of Winterfell. -nyan

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2019 May 7 imonaship12 likes this
If that is the case shouldn't Qyburn also get points for creating the scorpion 2.0 -Zaibin and Aadil

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2019 May 7 jesse.fitz12 likes this
Is this a substantial revamp of the original Scorpion? Or did they just make a lot more of them? -nyan

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2019 May 7 imonaship12 likes this
It was earlier shown that Scorpion 1.0 was useless and did no real appreciable damage; this seems to either be a significant redesign, or two _extraordinarily_ lucky shots that just happened to hit the spots that were wounded in the Battle of Winterfell by the Ice Dragon. -dopeghoti

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55:45 (+3) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron's Iron Fleet executes a devastating attack on Daenerys' armada, shooting down one of her dragons and sinking most of her ships just outside of Dragonstone. (Victorious Battle)

57:23 (+3) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron has captured Missandei and delivered her to King's Landing following the surprise attack on Daenerys' fleet. (New Follower/Prisoner)

57:52 (+3) Cersei Lannister:

As a result of the Iron Fleet attacks on Daenerys' ships, Cersei captures Missandei. (New Follower/Prisoner)

75:52 (+5) Cersei Lannister:

Cersei carries through on her threat as the Mountain beheads the prisoner Missandei in front of Daenerys and her advisors during the attempted parley. (Kill of Named Character (Orchestrated))

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

14:47 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund demands Jon finish off his horn of wine in front of a celebratory crowd at the Feast of Winterfell.

Tormund: "We have to celebrate our victory."
Jon: "Vomiting is not celebrating."
Tormund: "...yes, it is." (Funny Line)

18:54 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

"Now, which one of you cowards shit in my pants?" (Funny Line)

47:26 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon: "Rhaegal needs to heal. He doesn't need me weighing him down."
Tormund: "You weigh as much as two fleas fucking." (Witty Insult)

Glasses of Wine Consumed

9:18 (+5) Gendry:

Gendry takes a drink before asking the Hound if he's seen Arya. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

12:23 (+5) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne and Jaime share a drink at the Feast of Winterfell.

Jaime: "We've fought dead things and lived to talk about it.If this isn't the time to drink, when is?" (Glass of Wine Consumed)

12:31 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund glugs straight from the pitcher during the Feast of Winterfell. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

submitted by fenrojas (approved!)

15:02 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund drinks from his horn as the crowd toasts both Daenerys and Arya. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

15:44 (+5) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne is forced to drink in the game after Jaime correctly "guesses" that she is an only child.

Jaime: "You... are an only child."
Brienne: "I told you I was."
Jaime: "You didn't."
Brienne: "I did."
Jaime: "I surmised it." (Glass of Wine Consumed)

17:14 (+5) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne drinks jovially at a table with Podrick, Tyrion, and Jaime as Daenerys realizes she has no friends. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

18:09 (+5) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne guesses wrong that Tyrion is drinking wine but prefers ale, forcing her to drink. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

24:56 (+5) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne takes a drink as Jaime stumbles into her bedchambers with a cups and a pitcher of wine. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Acts of Intercourse

19:48 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

After being spurned by Brienne, Tormund rebounds with a Northern girl who fancies him at the Feast of Winterfell.

Northern girl: " You can touch me. I'm not afraid of Wildlings."
Tormund: "Maybe you should be."
(Act of Intercourse)

27:20 (+5) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne experiences her first time with Jaime after he drunkenly and jealously stumbles into her bedchambers.

Jaime: "I've never slept with a knight before."
Brienne: "I've never slept with anyone before." (Act of Intercourse)

65:43 (+5) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne wakes up from bed after a 2nd night with Jaime, only to find he has disappeared into the night. (Act of Intercourse)

submitted by nyan (approved!)

I think it strongly implied they did -conor_finlay

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2019 May 6 vjdev2015 likes this
I don't know about this. I think if this scene was shot in the morning when it was light, you wouldn't just assume they had done the deed. Just because they were sharing a bed isn't strong implication of deed doing. -Jamiemurraytait

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2019 May 6
Especially if you are going to give jaime for "I've made a huge mistake" assuming he's done it again is a bit contradictory hahaha -Jamiemurraytait

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2019 May 6
I'm mostly going off Brienne being nude, they probably have pajamas if they're regular sleeping? -nyan

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2019 May 6 vjdev2015 likes this
Rule IV: Scenes where characters are nude in bed are counted as implied sex. -okaymkay

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2019 May 7 nyan, vjdev2015, conor_finlay like this
So would Rule IV cover Jaime aswell? He’s not naked in bed but Brienne didn’t shag herself. -conor_finlay

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A Game of Thrones

53:50 (+1) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron sits in the gunner's seat of the Scorpion aboard his ship, as the Iron Fleet chases down Daenerys' dragons. (Basic Seat)

Deaths

6:41 (+2) Qhono:

Qhono's body appears on the funeral pyre as Winterfell pays their respects to the fallen. (Dead Body Appearance)

7:13 (+2) Eddison Tollett:

Edd's body lies atop a funeral pyre after the Battle of Winterfell as Samwell Tarly says his goodbye. (Dead Body Appearance)

Special

19:05 (+12) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund eagerly stares at Brienne as she excuses herself to take a piss. His 3-second gaze is unfortunately interrupted by Jaime. (Special)

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Also would “icy fucks” count as a witty insult? Or does it have to be said directly to the target of the insult? -conor_finlay

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2019 May 7
Doesn't have to be said at anyone, and for Tormund these kind of half-bleed into funny lines. I did add the "shit in my pants" line right after "icy fucks", here: https://fantasora.com/event/4628

I could go either way on this icy fucks line. -nyan

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2019 May 8
I feel like he definitely does more than 3 points worth of staring here? He stares straight into her eyes for 5/6 seconds as he walks over to her. He’s speaking to everyone but his eyes are fixed right on hers and he also happens to be talking about “looking into blue eyes”. His second stare is about 5/6 seconds aswell, from the end of his laugh to the moment Jaime steps in front of him and his eyes move to him. -conor_finlay

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2019 May 8
I know he doesn’t get points for just looking at Brienne but these two stares are definitely more in line with the stares he was scored for in episode 2. -conor_finlay

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2019 May 8
That was my bad, I meant to mark this as 3 seconds and 9 points. This is the portion that you can see Tormund's eyes during the stare in the screenshot, between Brienne's "pardon me for a moment" and Jaime interrupting. The 5s is about right if you include the beginning where we just see the back of his head. Don't feel too strongly about the cutoff here, call it even at 4s? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's subjective but I feel that before this with the "icy fucks" he is mostly jovial and talking to her like a person instead of objectifying her? -nyan

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2019 May 8
Yeah that’s fair in regard to the “icy fucks” part. I’d still argue that he should get the whole 5/6 seconds for the second stars as we can still see he’s looking at her even though we can’t see his eyes the whole time. Ultimately it’s up to you though. -conor_finlay

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The Feels

16:44 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund continually splashes wine EVERYWHERE as he regales the crowd with the legend of Jon Snow. (Ridiculously Funny Moment)

19:48 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund's heart is broken as he regales his story to Clegane. "And after all that, this fucker comes north and takes her from me. Just takes her, like that. I mean it, Clegane. My heart is broken." (Sad Feels)

23:32 (+5) Gendry:

Gendry proposes to Arya.

"I don't know how to be Lord of anything. I hardly know how to use a fork. All I know is that you're beautiful, and I love you, and none of it will be worth anything if you're not with me. So be with me. Be my wife. Be the Lady of Storm's End." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

48:32 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon and Tormund say their final farewells, as Tormund leaves to take the Free Folk home beyond the Wall.

Tormund: "It isn't home. We need room to wander. I'll take them back through Castle Black as soon as the winter storms pass. Back where we belong." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

57:26 (+15) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne begs Jaime to stay with her, but is left sobbing in the courtyard of Winterfell after Jaime rides off to save Cersei.

"You're better than she is. You're a good man and you can't save her. You don't need to die with her. Stay here. Stay with me." (Sad Feels)

Do people like this as Feels of the Week? Gwendoline Christie was amazing in this. And it felt like a real moment of reckoning for Jaime. -nyan

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2019 May 6
I think there is also a case for Danaerys when she looks at jorah, similar with sansa and theon. Would also suggest the strongest case would be for grey worm watching missandei's execution. -Jamiemurraytait

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2019 May 6
I'll classify this as the 3x "Feels of the Week". Same was applied to Jon's speech at the beginning.

I think my take goes against the grain a bit and we'll probably mostly add them, but Daenerys/Sansa/Grey Worm being sad about deaths are submitted here:

https://fantasora.com/event/4609
https://fantasora.com/event/4596 -nyan

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2019 May 6
^edit: eh after further consideration I downgraded Jon's speech. It was a very good speech but maybe just below the bar. It was sort of like Podrick's song in terms of summing up the overall moment which together was very sad, however the Sad Feels were distributed and not all on one character. -nyan

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