Matchup: The Hound Lives! vs Jon Snow probably knows something, maybe... for Ep 2

The Hound Lives! (nyan)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults
Ramsay Bolton The legitimized bastard son of Roose Bolton, now Warden of the North. He is fond of the Bolton tradition of flaying their enemies.	#3	34	22	9	3
Tyene Sand The youngest of Oberyn Martell's bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes. She uses daggers and poisons as her weapons.	#43	0	0	0	0
Khal Moro The leader of a new Khalasar of Dothraki.	#38	0	0	0	0
Leaf A member of the Children of the Forest. She leads Bran and his companions to cave of the Three-eyed Raven.	#58	0	0	0	0
Syrio Forel Arya's swordfighting teacher. He is a master swordfighter, and a former First Sword of Braavos. His whereabouts are unknown after he helps Arya escape capture by Lannister soldiers.	#78	0	0	0	0
Jaqen H'ghar The leader of the Faceless Men of Braavos, and a skilled assassin. He trains Arya to become an assassin in the House of Black and White.	#23	0	0	0	0
Eddard Stark The long-deceased head of House Stark. There are rumors that he may make a reappearance in flashback form for S6.	#63	0	0	0	0
Septa Unella A Septa and member of the Most Devout, the council that rules the Faith of the Seven. She rings the shame! shame! shame! bell.	#98	0	0	0	0
Bronn A former sellsword, who has risen through the ranks of nobility thanks to his fighting skills and work for the Lannisters. He recently accompanied Jaime Lannister on a sensitive diplomatic mission to Dorne to rescue the Princeess Myrcella Baratheon.	#18	0	0	0	0
Ser Arthur Dayne A member of the Kinsguard who served in the time of Aerys II and Rhaegar Targaryen. Known as the "Sword of the Morning", he is renowned as one of the greatest fighters in the history of Westeros.	#83	0	0	0	0
Totals		34	22	9	3

Jon Snow probably knows something, maybe... (natureguru)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Deaths	Special
Balon Greyjoy The head of House Greyjoy and Lord of the Iron Islands. He is the father of Theon, who was given up as a ward to the Starks after Balon's failed rebellion against the Iron Throne.	#90	16	3	3	10	0
Hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor. hodor.	#31	12	0	0	0	12
Jon Snow The bastard son of Ned Stark, and the current Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. After guiding the Wildlings to safety in the aftermath of the Battle of Castle Black and the attack on Hardhome, he was betrayed by a mutiny of the Night's Watch, and left for dead in the snow.	#10	3	0	0	0	3
High Sparrow The leader of the Sparrows, a religious movement within the Faith of the Seven. After being appointed as High Septon by Cersei Lannister, he has lead a sweeping inquiry to root out moral corruption in King's Landing, imprisoning Loras Tyrell, Margaery Tyrell, and Cersei Lannister.	#30	3	0	3	0	0
Three-eyed raven A mysterious man who lives far north of the Wall with the Children of the Forest. He has been guiding Bran's dreams through the form of a three-eyed raven.	#50	0	0	0	0	0
Braavosi Margaery Actress An actress who plays Margaery Tyrell in a Braavosi play about the political events of Westeros.	#91	0	0	0	0	0
Izembaro (Robert/Tywin actor) The manager of an acting troupe in Braavos. He plays Robert Baratheon in a play depicting the political events of Westeros.	#70	0	0	0	0	0
High Priestess Kinvara The High Priestess of the Red Temple in Volantis.	#71	0	0	0	0	0
Jorah Mormont The exiled head of House Mormont. Jorah was previously one of Daenerys Targaryen's most trusted advisors before his banishment. He returned to her service during a revolt in the fighting pits of Meereen, and now travels with Daario Naharis to rescue Daenerys, who has disappeared along with one of her dragons, Drogon.	#11	0	0	0	0	0
Child of the Forest Another Child of the Forest who is encountered far beyond the Wall.	#51	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		34	3	6	10	15

Kills

32:49 (+10) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay stabs his father Roose in the gut upon news that Fat Walda has borne Roose a second son. (Kill of Named Character)

37:07 (+10) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay offers up fresh meat to his hounds in the form of Fat Walda Frey. (Kill of Named Character)

37:07 (+2) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay offers up fresh meat to his hounds in the form of his newborn half-brother.
Fat Walda: "Please, Ramsay. He's your brother."
Ramsay: "I prefer being an only child." (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Sadly Roose didn't stick around long enough to give the baby a name. Ramsay needs to think long-term strategy if he's going for the fantasy point crown. -nyan

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2016 May 2 bookworm13457, tyler3005, kmgiorgio, jedjackoway, 3 others like this
I was up against a Ramsay this week so I was holding my breath hoping he wouldn't name the kid before killing him -bookworm13457

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2016 May 2 thederekwilson, 10100100101, nyan like this
His thirst for blood rivals his "mad dogs" -10100100101

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2016 May 2

Political Wins

32:49 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay stabs his father Roose in the gut upon news that Fat Walda has borne Roose a second son.
Roose: "You'll always be my first born."
Ramsay: "Thank you for saying that. It means a great deal to me." (Act of Betrayal)

35:30 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay leads Fat Walda Frey and his newborn half-brother to a kennel full of his hungry hounds instead of to Lord Bolton. "Of course. Follow me mother." (Act of Betrayal)

36:13 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay becomes the new Lord Bolton after killing his father, Roose.
Fat Walda Frey: "Where is Lord Bolton?"
Ramsay: "I am Lord Bolton." (New Title)

41:21 (+3) Balon Greyjoy:

Balon commands that the Ironborn should continue attacking the mainland over Yara Greyjoy's protests.
Yara: "We took those castles because the Northerners marched off to war. That war is over. The last time we provoked them too far, I watched from that window as they breached our walls and knocked down our towers. I lost two brothers that day."
Balon: "And I lost three sons. ... when you rule the Iron Islands you can wage all the peace you want but for now shut your mouth and obey or I will make another heir who will." (Executive Decision)

Dispute. The points are valid but they should be under insults as a Threat. He didn't make any decisions, he just refused to change his mind. -alicehanners

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2016 May 2 jedjackoway likes this
He made both an executive decision and a threat, both should count. -nsimmonds

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2016 May 2
He made the decision ages ago, off-screen. Yara keeps trying to change his mind and failing. He didn't make any new decisions in this scene though. -alicehanners

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2016 May 2 jronovich likes this
-nyan

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2016 May 3
If that's the reasoning--asserting their political power--what power did Balon actually assert? He didn't send Yara on any missions, didn't tell her to do or not do anything except be quiet, and I hope we aren't giving out points every time someone tells someone to be quiet :P

However, I would not consider Robert's second assertion as a decision. He made the decision in the small council. Ned tried to change his mind--Yara tries to change Balon's mind about going for more inland holdings--and both fail. It's a failure for Ned and Yara, not a success for Robert or Balon.

In a perfect parallel to Yara/Balon, Ramsay tries to convince Roose to go against Castle Black. Roose refuses. Yet he gets no political points. Possibly because Ramsay then kills him, but if Balon's "decision" counts, then Roose's decision counts as well. It's the same kind of "decision," it was already made before this episode. -alicehanners

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2016 May 3 nyan likes this
I think Roose should get points there, too. He's presented with two options, stay the course or do something else, and over his subordinates' protests he makes a choice. -nsimmonds

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2016 May 3

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

18:20 (+3) High Sparrow:

to Jaime Lannister, as his Sparrows circle in: "Every one of us is poor and powerless. And yet, together, we can overthrow an empire." (Threat)

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36:46 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay rejects Fat Walda Frey's please for her son's life.
Fat Walda: "Please, Ramsay. He's your brother."
Ramsay: "I prefer being an only child." (Threat)

Is this really a threat? This seems like a very explicit "I'm going to kill you guys now."

Would a character saying "now, die!" while delivering a killing blow count as a threat? This feels like that to me. -jedjackoway

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2016 May 2 Lem Lemoncake, bookworm13457, moonbaseu92 like this
"Now, die!", "You're an idiot", or other plainly-spoken lines aren't good enough for this category. I think "I prefer being an only child" is not quite as literal/plain as any of those examples - it's like a trivialization of Fat Walda's pleas for her sons life that shows how coldly sociopathic Ramsay is (his simple *preference* outweighs the life of a baby). But beyond wether the line is literal or plain, we'll certainly listen to feedback on whether a line passes the subjective quality bar. -nyan

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2016 May 2
If it doesn't count as a threat it should count as wit. -nsimmonds

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2016 May 2 10100100101 likes this
I think that makes sense. From that definition of threat, this seems legit. -jedjackoway

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2016 May 3

39:49 (+3) Balon Greyjoy:

to Yara Greyjoy: "When you rule the Iron Islands, you can wage all the peace you want. But for now, shut your mouth and obey or I will make another heir who will." (Witty Insult)

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Deaths

44:13 (+10) Balon Greyjoy:

After attempting to attack his brother, Euron Greyjoy, Balon is thrown over the bridge at Pyke and into the sea. (Death)

Special

6:54 (+9) Hodor:

"Hodor ...Hodor. Hodor." (Special)

7:53 (+3) Hodor:

"Hodor." (Special)

29:18 (+3) Jon Snow:

Roose Bolton: "Jon Snow is a bastard, not a Stark." (Special)

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