Matchup: Mother of Pitbulls ❤️ vs Vaes Shield for Ep 4

Mother of Pitbulls ❤️ (ursch1sd)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Wine	Thrones	Deaths	Special	Feels
Sansa Stark	#9	38	6	3	10	1	0	3	15
Missandei	#24	17	0	3	5	1	5	3	0
Rhaegal	#25	5	0	0	0	0	5	0	0
Gilly	#40	3	0	3	0	0	0	0	0
Qhono	#57	2	0	0	0	0	2	0	0
Hodor	#41	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Viserion	#8	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Melessa Tarly	#56	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		65	6	9	15	2	12	6	15

Vaes Shield (autouser)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Wine	Sex	Thrones	Deaths	Special	Feels
Jon Snow	#2	55	12	3	15	0	2	0	3	20
Brienne of Tarth	#15	50	0	0	25	10	0	0	0	15
Jorah Mormont	#18	7	0	0	0	5	0	2	0	0
Daario Naharis	#34	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Qyburn	#31	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Edmure Tully	#50	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Olyvar	#63	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Meera Reed	#47	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		112	12	3	40	15	2	2	3	35

Political Wins

6:17 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon quotes the Night's Watch oath to end his eulogy to the dead at Winterfell. "They were the shields that guarded the realms of men. And we shall never see their like again." (House Words)

33:53 (+3) Jon Snow:

Tyrion and Jon convince Daenerys to take a more cautioned approach to the war and lay siege to King's Landing instead of destroying it.

Daenerys: "No matter how many lords turn against her, as long as she sits on the Iron Throne, she can call herself Queen of the Seven Kingdoms. We need the capital."
Tyrion: "I watched the people of King's Landing rebel against their king when they were hungry, and that was before winter began. Give them the opportunity and they will cast Cersei aside."
Jon: "We'll surround the city. If the Iron Fleet tries to ferry in more food, the dragons will destroy them. If the Lannisters and the Golden Company attack, we'll defeat them in the field."
Tyrion: "Once the people see that Cersei is our only enemy, her reign is over." (Convincing Argument)

34:55 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon overrules Sansa's objections and pledges the weakened Northern forces to fight for Daenerys immediately.

to Sansa: "The Northern forces will honor their promises and their allegiance to the Queen of the Seven Kingdoms."
turning to Daenerys: "What you command, we will obey." (Executive Decision)

38:17 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Arya and Sansa learn of Jon Snow's true heritage as a secret Targaryen and heir to the Iron Throne. (Secret Discovery)

38:17 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon breaks his promise to Daenerys, secretly telling Arya and Sansa about his heritage as a Targaryen and heir to the Iron Throne as long as they pinky swore not to tell anyone. (Act of Betrayal)

He doesn’t promise her anything -alicehanners

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Quite the opposite in fact; he was quite clear that he felt his family had a right to know. -dopeghoti

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2019 May 8
Since he makes them swear not to tell anyone, doesn't it imply it's something he's doing behind Daenerys' back? -nyan

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2019 May 8
I think him making them promise was more so other people didn’t find out, rather than so Daenerys didn’t find out they knew, nah? -conor_finlay

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2019 May 8
He didn’t promise Daenerys he wouldn’t tell, she just made it clear that there might be consequences if he did. -conor_finlay

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46:50 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Sansa breaks her promise to Jon, divulging his secret heritage to Tyrion Lannister. "What if there's someone else? Someone better?" (Act of Betrayal)

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

21:27 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Sansa: "... he got what he deserved. I gave it to him."
Sandor: "How?"
Sansa: "Hounds." (Funny Line)

49:24 (+3) Gilly:

to Jon, as Samwell blathers on about how Gilly got pregnant: "I'm sure he knows how it happens, Sam." (Funny Line)

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49:36 (+3) Jon Snow:

Gilly: "If it's a boy, we want to name him Jon."
Jon: "I hope it's a girl." (Funny Line)

65:21 (+3) Missandei:

Cersei: "If you have any last words, now is the time."
Missandei: "Dracarys." (Threat)

Glasses of Wine Consumed

9:00 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon drinks from his cup at the head table as he notices Daenerys' spaced out look. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

9:02 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sansa drinks from her cup at the head table as the awkward family dinner commences. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

9:53 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sansa stuffs her face with another cup as Gendry scoots his way down the aisle. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

A note on the scoring criteria here - normally it's scored per-glass in a scene (e.g. multiple sips not counted unless a refill is seen in between). However this ended up being such a long scene that there weren't the traditional cuts in between (like with the fireplace scenes in E2). I decided to treat it like a battle and somewhat arbitrarily divide the Feast of Winterfell into "scenes" based on which groups of character we cut to. Not perfect and open to thoughts on this rubric.

We probably wouldn't backdate scores this season but I'm coming around to counting every sip instead. Feels like the "not counted until refilled" is not the most fun mechanic, this was originally defined to get the numbers closest to actual "Glasses of Wine Consumed". -nyan

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I think if you’re changing it to every sip it’s unfair not to back date it. Think how many points tormund would have missed out on in ep2 for instance. -conor_finlay

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11:31 (+5) Missandei:

Missandei drinks her toast early as the crowd cheers on Gendry's promotion to non-bastard and Lord Barathon of Storm's End. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

12:23 (+5) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne and Jaime share a drink at the Feast of Winterfell.

Jaime: "We've fought dead things and lived to talk about it.If this isn't the time to drink, when is?" (Glass of Wine Consumed)

15:02 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon drinks as they the Feast of Winterfell toast to Daenerys the Dragon Queen and Arya Stark, the Hero of Winterfell (Glass of Wine Consumed)

15:44 (+5) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne is forced to drink in the game after Jaime correctly "guesses" that she is an only child.

Jaime: "You... are an only child."
Brienne: "I told you I was."
Jaime: "You didn't."
Brienne: "I did."
Jaime: "I surmised it." (Glass of Wine Consumed)

16:07 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon drinks in the background as Tormund regales the crowd with the legends of Jon Snow. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

17:14 (+5) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne drinks jovially at a table with Podrick, Tyrion, and Jaime as Daenerys realizes she has no friends. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

18:09 (+5) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne guesses wrong that Tyrion is drinking wine but prefers ale, forcing her to drink. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

24:56 (+5) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne takes a drink as Jaime stumbles into her bedchambers with a cups and a pitcher of wine. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Acts of Intercourse

3:37 (+5) Jorah Mormont:

Daenerys gives Jorah a parting kiss on his forehead as his body lies atop the funeral pyre. (Act of Intercourse)

27:20 (+5) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne experiences her first time with Jaime after he drunkenly and jealously stumbles into her bedchambers.

Jaime: "I've never slept with a knight before."
Brienne: "I've never slept with anyone before." (Act of Intercourse)

65:43 (+5) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne wakes up from bed after a 2nd night with Jaime, only to find he has disappeared into the night. (Act of Intercourse)

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I think it strongly implied they did -conor_finlay

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2019 May 6 vjdev2015 likes this
I don't know about this. I think if this scene was shot in the morning when it was light, you wouldn't just assume they had done the deed. Just because they were sharing a bed isn't strong implication of deed doing. -Jamiemurraytait

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2019 May 6
Especially if you are going to give jaime for "I've made a huge mistake" assuming he's done it again is a bit contradictory hahaha -Jamiemurraytait

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2019 May 6
I'm mostly going off Brienne being nude, they probably have pajamas if they're regular sleeping? -nyan

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2019 May 6 vjdev2015 likes this
Rule IV: Scenes where characters are nude in bed are counted as implied sex. -okaymkay

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So would Rule IV cover Jaime aswell? He’s not naked in bed but Brienne didn’t shag herself. -conor_finlay

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A Game of Thrones

8:54 (+1) Sansa Stark:

Sansa sits at the head table during the celebratory feast at Winterfell. (Basic Seat)

8:54 (+1) Jon Snow:

Jon awkwardly sits at center of the head table between Sansa and Daenerys during the celebratory feast at Winterfell. (Basic Seat)

9:54 (+1) Missandei:

Missandei sits in a chair at the side table at the Feast of Winterfell. (Basic Seat)

11:41 (+1) Jon Snow:

Jon sits back down after raising a toast and giving his cup of wine to Gendry (Basic Seat)

Deaths

3:21 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah's body lies on top of a funeral pyre after the Battle of Winterfell. (Dead Body Appearance)

6:41 (+2) Qhono:

Qhono's body appears on the funeral pyre as Winterfell pays their respects to the fallen. (Dead Body Appearance)

53:32 (+5) Rhaegal:

Rhaegal is hit by three scorpion bolts from Euron and the Greyjoy fleet, falling out of the sky and plunging into the waters next to Dragonstone. (Death)

75:52 (+5) Missandei:

Missandei is beheaded by the Mountain atop the ramparts at King's Landing, after delivering her final words - "Dracarys." (Death)

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Special

23:06 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Sansa cries over Theon's body as the Northern forces pay their respects to the dead after the Battle of Winterfell. (Special)

37:13 (+3) Jon Snow:

Arya: "You're my brother. Not my half-brother or my bastard brother. My brother." (Special)

65:21 (+3) Missandei:

Missandei speaks her last words in Valyrian.

Cersei: "If you have any last words, now is the time."
Missandei: "Dracarys." (Special)

The Feels

4:30 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sansa grieves over the body of Theon Greyjoy as the forces at Winterfell gather to honor the dead. She leaves him with her Stark brooch before lighting the funeral pyre. (Sad Feels)

5:25 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon gives a eulogy to the fallen as the living pay their respects after the Battle of Winterfell.

"We're here to say goodbye to our brothers and sisters. To our fathers and mothers. To our friends.
Our fellow men and women who set aside their differences to fight together and die together so that others might live.
Everyone in this world owes them a debt that can never be repaid.
It is our duty and our honor to keep them alive in memory for those who come after us, and those who come after them, for as long as men draw breath.
They were the shields that guarded the realms of men.
And we shall never see their like again." (Sad Feels)

22:07 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sandor Clegane and Sansa talk about their long journeys and roads not taken.

Sandor: " You've changed, Little Bird. None of it would have happened if you'd left King's Landing with me. No Littlefinger, no Ramsay none of it."
Sansa: "Without Littlefinger, and Ramsay, and the rest... I would have stayed a Little Bird all my life." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

37:18 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Arya and Sansa stage a family intervention with Jon Snow to bring him back to the Stark side.

Jon: "I've never been a Stark."
Sansa: "You are. You're just as much Ned Stark's child as any of us."
Arya: "You're my brother. Not my half-brother or my bastard brother. My brother." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

37:18 (+5) Jon Snow:

48:32 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon and Tormund say their final farewells, as Tormund leaves to take the Free Folk home beyond the Wall. (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

49:52 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon and Sam say their goodbyes at Winterfell.

Sam: "You're the best friend I ever had."
Jon: "You too, Sam." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

57:26 (+15) Brienne of Tarth:

Brienne begs Jaime to stay with her, but is left sobbing in the courtyard of Winterfell after Jaime rides off to save Cersei.

"You're better than she is. You're a good man and you can't save her. You don't need to die with her. Stay here. Stay with me." (Sad Feels)

Do people like this as Feels of the Week? Gwendoline Christie was amazing in this. And it felt like a real moment of reckoning for Jaime. -nyan

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2019 May 6
I think there is also a case for Danaerys when she looks at jorah, similar with sansa and theon. Would also suggest the strongest case would be for grey worm watching missandei's execution. -Jamiemurraytait

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2019 May 6
I'll classify this as the 3x "Feels of the Week". Same was applied to Jon's speech at the beginning.

I think my take goes against the grain a bit and we'll probably mostly add them, but Daenerys/Sansa/Grey Worm being sad about deaths are submitted here:

https://fantasora.com/event/4609
https://fantasora.com/event/4596 -nyan

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2019 May 6
^edit: eh after further consideration I downgraded Jon's speech. It was a very good speech but maybe just below the bar. It was sort of like Podrick's song in terms of summing up the overall moment which together was very sad, however the Sad Feels were distributed and not all on one character. -nyan

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2019 May 6

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