Matchup: That's So 3-eyed Raven vs The night is dark and full of Bears for Ep 9

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That's So 3-eyed Raven (kyle.s.golden)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults	Deaths
Grey Worm The leader of the Unsullied - a highly-trained army of freed slaves who serve Daenerys Targaryen.	#22	23	20	3	0	0
Yara Greyjoy Theon's older sister, Yara was raised on the Iron Islands as a true Ironborn. She is a fearsome fighter and commands a longship of her own.	#43	12	0	3	9	0
Hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor. hodor.	#27	1	0	0	0	1
Roose Bolton Lord of House Bolton, and Warden of the North after his betrayal of Robb Stark at the Red Wedding. He is the father of Ramsay Bolton, who is his legitimized bastard son.	#11	1	0	0	0	1
Doran Martell The head of House Martell of Dorne, and elder brother of Prince Oberyn Martell.	#38	1	0	0	0	1
Qyburn A disgraced former Maester, who was banished from the order for engaging in forbidden experiments. He is recruited by Cersei to assist in various medical facilities, and now serves as Master of Whispers in King's Landing.	#59	0	0	0	0	0
Arya Stark The youngest of the Stark girls. Free-spirited and rebellious, Arya escaped the war-ravaged Westeros and currently resides in Braavos, where she trains under the face-changing assassin Jaqen H'ghar in the House of Black and White.	#6	0	0	0	0	0
Tyene Sand The youngest of Oberyn Martell's bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes. She uses daggers and poisons as her weapons.	#54	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		38	20	6	9	3

The night is dark and full of Bears (lrak1002)

Character	Drafted	Total	Deaths
Leaf A member of the Children of the Forest. She leads Bran and his companions to cave of the Three-eyed Raven.	#44	1	1
Margaery Tyrell The wife of King Tommen Baratheon and Queen of the Seven Kingdoms. Her increasing influence over the young king have put at her odds against his mother, Cersei Lannister.	#21	0	0
Loras Tyrell The heir to Highgarden and regarded as one of the most skilled knights in Westeros. He is the brother of Margaery Tyrell. He is currently imprisoned by the High Sparrow for his alleged homosexual affairs with Olyvar, the brothel owner.	#37	0	0
Jaqen H'ghar The leader of the Faceless Men of Braavos, and a skilled assassin. He trains Arya to become an assassin in the House of Black and White.	#28	0	0
Aeron Greyjoy An uncle of Theon Greyjoy, who serves as a priest to the Drowned God.	#53	0	0
Brienne of Tarth A skilled fighter and heir to House Tarth. A sworn sword to the late Catelyn Stark, she continues her mission to ensure the safety of the Stark girls.	#12	0	0
Mace Tyrell The head of House Tyrell and Lord of Highgarden. He is the father of Loras and Margaery. While bumbling and appearing incompetent, he heads a powerful House and serves as both Master of Ships and Master of Coin on King Tommen Baratheon's Small Council.	#60	0	0
Jaime Lannister The second of the Lannister children, he is Cersei's lover and twin brother, and also the father of her three bastard children, the supposed sons and daughters of the late King Robert Baratheon. He also serves as Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, and recently returns from a mission to Dorne to rescue his daughter/niece, Myrcella Baratheon.	#5	0	0
Totals		1	1

Kills

10:23 (+10) Grey Worm :

Grey Worm swiftly slashes the throat of the slave master Razdal mo Eraz, after he offers up the the slaver Yezzzan zo Qaggaz to die as part of the terms of surrender to Daenerys. (Kill of Named Character)

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I don't see this as skill from Grey Worm. 1) The soldiers are fleeing because they're clearly outmatched by dragons and approaching Dothraki, this effectively makes the Masters prisoners of war. 2) Grey Worm is the best of the Unsullied (why he was named Captain) so a throat slash is not a feat for him, it's as mindless as a chef chopping carrots. I think he should split the total points with Dany because he sort of went against her orders by killing 2 instead of 1, but also fulfilled her order at the same time. So she should get points for 1 commanded kill and he should get points for a single kill. Since one is named and one is not, and Dany didn't name someone to kill, give her the unnamed kill and Grey Worm the named kill. -mg.flanigan11

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2016 Jun 22
We didn't even hear Dany order the kill(s), right? -Lem Lemoncake

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2016 Jun 22
We heard by proxy in situ that one was ordered, but that could easily have been a ruse (there could have been orders to kill all but the one singled out by the other two to kill, for example). But either way, they were not restrained or set up on a scaffold or anything; it's pretty clear that Grey Worm's slash was meant to catch them off-guard. Which takes skill. Points therefore for the Worm even if the kills were both ordered explicitly, in my opinion. -dopeghoti

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2016 Jun 22 becharafayad1997 likes this

10:23 (+10) Grey Worm :

Grey Worm slashes the throat of Belicho Paenymion, the slave master from Volantis, after he and Razdal mo Eraz offer up the slave trader Yezzzan zo Qaggaz as a sacrifice for Daenerys' terms of surrender. (Kill of Named Character)

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Yes, if you think they're the same then there's not much of an argument for not counting "Belicho" as a named kill. We should try for some community consensus, since there's unfortunately no specific criteria for when we upgrade these characters to named status.

Hightower was a little more like White Walkers in that he proved to be a worthy "boss fight" adversary, while Forzo and "Belicho" would mostly be based on their dialogue/screentime being prominent enough. Another example could be the drunkard whose face was smashed in by the Mountain - he had a whole scene of just his dialogue, but was counted as an unnamed character.

It's also an option to revert the "named character" status from Forzo and/or Hightower as well. -nyan

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2016 Jun 21 dopeghoti likes this
I honestly didn't know the guys name who we are arguing about. But he was prominent enough to be at the parlay between dany and the masters, and at the parlay with tyrion so i would deem him a prominent character just like hightower, since i also didnt know his name. -cmwalken15

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2016 Jun 21 taylorreneegoodrich, Ser Vincent, goodjujumagic, dibiasio84, 2 others like this
To me he falls under the "boss character" definition. He's not just a random footsoldier, he's the representative from Volantis. Even if he isn't given a name, I think his status and role qualify him to be a "named kill." -alexanderdropkin

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Political Wins

9:12 (+3) Grey Worm :

After Daenerys' awe-inspiring display of burnination, Grey Worm convinces the slave masters' guards to abandon their post. "You men have a choice: fight and die for masters who would never fight and die for you, or go home to your families." They promptly drop their swords and flee. (Convincing Argument)

30:04 (+3) Yara Greyjoy:

Yara agrees to give Daenerys use of the Iron Fleet, and convinces her to come to Westeros and back her claim to the Iron Islands, despite Tyrion's mistrust of the Greyjoys and Theon in particular. (Convincing Argument)

submitted by cmwalken15 (approved!)

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

28:11 (+3) Yara Greyjoy:

Meeting with Daenerys:
Theon: "The Iron Fleet isn't all [Euron Greyjoy's] bringing. He also wants to give you-"
Yara: "His big cock, I think he said." (Funny Line)

submitted by becharafayad1997 (approved!)

Personally I think this Euron line is the cringiest in all of S6. I guess "so bad it's laughable" counted like Tyene's "bad pussayyy" line from last year? -nyan

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2016 Jun 22
I think it should be counted, I laughed so hard at this one -becharafayad1997

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2016 Jun 22 emilien.raggi likes this
The line spoken by Yara was not the same, the tone of Yara was much more hilarious. -emilien.raggi

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28:19 (+3) Yara Greyjoy:

Daenerys: "And I imagine your offer is free of any marriage demands?"
Yara: "I never demand, but I'm up for anything, really." (Funny Line)

28:37 (+3) Yara Greyjoy:

Theon: "Your ancestors defeated ours and took the Iron Islands. We ask you to give them back."
Daenerys: "And that's all?"
Yara: "We'd like you to help us murder an uncle or two who don't think a woman's fit to rule." (Funny Line)

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Deaths

+1 for Hodor, +1 for Roose Bolton, +1 for Leaf, +1 for Doran Martell

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