Matchup: Deddard Starks vs Tyrion's priapism for Ep 7

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Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Special
Brynden Tully (Blackfish) Known as the Blackfish, Brynden is the uncle of Catelyn Stark and Edmure Tully. He escaped the events of the Red Wedding, but his whereabouts are unknown.	-	15	3	12	0
Tormund Giantsbane A leader of the Wildlings, and formerly a trusted lieutenant and second-in-command to Mance Rayder, the King Beyond the Wall. Although they have met in battle more than once, he bears a grudging respect for Jon Snow.	-	6	3	3	0
Davos Seaworth Ser Davos is a knight serving Stannis Baratheon, and one of his most trusted advisors. He is often at odds with the Red Priestess Melisandre.	#17	6	3	3	0
Jon Snow The bastard son of Ned Stark, and the current Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. After guiding the Wildlings to safety in the aftermath of the Battle of Castle Black and the attack on Hardhome, he was betrayed by a mutiny of the Night's Watch, and left for dead in the snow.	#16	6	6	0	0
Brienne of Tarth A skilled fighter and heir to House Tarth. A sworn sword to the late Catelyn Stark, she continues her mission to ensure the safety of the Stark girls.	#9	3	0	0	3
Ramsay Bolton The legitimized bastard son of Roose Bolton, now Warden of the North. He is fond of the Bolton tradition of flaying their enemies.	#8	0	0	0	0
Totals		36	15	18	3

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults	Deaths	Special
Jaime Lannister The second of the Lannister children, he is Cersei's lover and twin brother, and also the father of her three bastard children, the supposed sons and daughters of the late King Robert Baratheon. He also serves as Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, and recently returns from a mission to Dorne to rescue his daughter/niece, Myrcella Baratheon.	#4	20	5	6	6	0	3
Margaery Tyrell The wife of King Tommen Baratheon and Queen of the Seven Kingdoms. Her increasing influence over the young king have put at her odds against his mother, Cersei Lannister.	#13	6	0	6	0	0	0
Khal Moro The leader of a new Khalasar of Dothraki.	#20	1	0	0	0	1	0
Cersei Lannister Queen Regent of the Seven Kingdoms and mother to King Tommen. Afflicted by a rare water allergy.	#5	0	0	0	0	0	0
Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger) Formerly the Master of Coin, Littlefinger is a conniving political mastermind and serves as Warden of the East after his behind-the-scenes assassination of Lisa Tully.	#12	0	0	0	0	0	0
Kevan Lannister The younger brother of the late Tywin Lannister, Lord of Casterly Rock. Often underestimated as his brother's inferior, Kevan is one of the few in King's Landing who is not afraid to stand up against Cersei Lannister's schemes. With Cersei's imprisonment, he has returned to serve as Hand of the King to the young King Tommen Baratheon.	-	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		27	5	12	6	1	3

Jaime clobbers Black Walder with his golden hand, leaving him with a severe bruise to the cheek.

Jaime: "Only a fool makes threats he's not prepared to carry out. Now let's say I threatened to hit you unless you shut your mouth, but you kept talking. What do you think I'd do?"
Black Walder: "I don't give a rat's-" *smack* (Minor Injury of Named Character)

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Personally I'm a bit in agreement with Alice from the original thread... the damage seems a little weak even for the "minor" subcategory. "Major" is reserved for permanent injuries (e.g. losing a hand), and most of the examples of minor injury have been more severe... Arya got the sticks knocked out of her by the Waif for example. Should we require some visible signs of injury for the minor category (visible bleeding or bruising)? -nyan

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2016 Jun 7
There are visible signs of injury. Posted evidence in the other thread, but here's the after again: http://imgur.com/O0Sf1DW -nsimmonds

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2016 Jun 7 as38, Laxis, golub.jake, nyan, 4 others like this
If anything there are more visible signs here than with Arya. -nsimmonds

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2016 Jun 7 Laxis and golub.jake like this
I was thinking the same thing, there have been even more "minor" hits on Arya that were counted for waif, I don't see why being struck by a metal object into the face (!) shouldn't count as minor injury, especially when taking a look at that screenshot -Laxis

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2016 Jun 7 dopeghoti, golub.jake, wpearsal, taylorreneegoodrich, 2 others like this
Waif gets points for a stick hit.. but jaimie wacks with solid gold hand no points? -golub.jake

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2016 Jun 7 nsimmonds likes this

21:45 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime acquires Edmure Tully as his prisoner after taking over the Siege of Riverrun. (New Follower/Prisoner)

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Political Wins

11:14 (+3) Margaery Tyrell:

Instead of bringing Olenna Tyrell in to repent for her sins, as she had promised the High Sparrow, Margaery secretly tips off her grandmother of her imminent danger in King's Landing, convincing her to leave the city. (Act of Betrayal)

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11:16 (+3) Margaery Tyrell:

Margaery convinces her grandmother Olenna to leave King's Landing for her own safety: "Go home. Find comfort in prayer and good works. The Mother watches over us all." (Convincing Argument)

13:39 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund convinces the other Wildlings to march for Jon Snow. "The Crows killed him, because he spoke for the Free Folk when no other Southerners would. He died for us. If we are not willing to do the same for him, we're cowards. If that's what we are, we deserve to be the last of the Free Folk." (Convincing Argument)

14:15 (+3) Jon Snow:

Wun Weg Wun Dar Wun: "Snow." (New Follower/Prisoner)

20:26 (+3) Brynden Tully (Blackfish):

The Freys attempt to negotiate for the surrender of Riverrun by threatening to cut Edmure Tully's throat. The Blackfish coldly calls their bluff without regard for his nephew's life, convincing them to spare the heir to House Tully (for now).

Black Walder: "Yield the castle, or I cut his throat."
Brynden: "Go on, then. Cut his throat." (Convincing Argument)

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I think convincing argument is actually the best fit here, if you see it as a negotiation - the castle for Edmure's life. The Freys are prepared to take at least one, and the Blackfish verbally calls their bluff and gets them to act his way (sparing Edmure, for now). What would you think about expanding "convincing argument" to including "winning a negotiation" to better fit these situations in the future? -nyan

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2016 Jun 7 as38, dopeghoti, righteous like this
Isn't this an executive decision? -alicehanners

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2016 Jun 9
Well he didn't really give an order that was carried out. I added it as convincing argument for the reasons outlined, but it isn't quite a perfect fit. Another one this could fit under is "secret discovery", i.e. he calls the Freys' bluff and discovers that they don't actually have the balls/permission to kill Edmure. -nyan

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2016 Jun 9

21:55 (+6) Jaime Lannister:

Lothar Frey and Black Walder find themselves under Jaime Lannister's command as he arrives to take over the siege forces surrounding Riverrun. (New Follower/Prisoner)

26:31 (+3) Davos Seaworth:

After Jon Snow and Sansa Stark prove unconvincing, Davos convinces the young Lyanna Mormont to rally against the Bolton army. "Because Jeor Mormont and Jon Snow both understood that the real war isn't between a few squabbling houses. It's between the living and the dead. And make no mistake, my lady, the dead are coming ... As long as the Boltons hold Winterfell, the North is divided. And a divided North won't stand a chance against the Night King." (Convincing Argument)

27:11 (+3) Jon Snow:

Lyanna Mormont pledges her house to Jon Snow's fighting forces: "House Mormont has kept faith with House Stark for a thousand years... We will not break faith today." (New Follower/Prisoner)

Should these points go to Sansa as well? -alicehanners

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2016 Jun 6 marcelcdn, Lem Lemoncake, wpearsal, noyoumustdie like this
Yes I agree. John isnt even a Stark and Sansa are co-leaders. The wildlings are johns alone, but the northern houses should go to both of them. -cmwalken15

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2016 Jun 6 Lem Lemoncake and wpearsal like this
Added for Sansa: http://fantasora.com/event/2641 -nyan

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2016 Jun 8
I don't think they should go to either Sansa or Jon, it was Davos who did it. -mg.flanigan11

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2016 Jun 8
These points are for Lyanna Mormont as a follower. Davos did also receive points for swaying her: http://fantasora.com/event/2640 -nyan

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2016 Jun 8

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

15:00 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon Snow: "Are you sure they'll come (the Wildling armies)?"
Tormund: "We're not clever like you Southerners. When we say we'll do something, we do it." (Witty Insult)

18:15 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Bronn: "Now that is a sorry attempt at a siege. Someone needs to teach those sad twats how to dig trenches."
Jaime: "Someone certainly does." (Funny Line)

21:29 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

to Black Walder: "Only a fool makes threats he's not prepared to carry out. Now let's say I threatened to hit you unless you shut your mouth, but you kept talking. What do you think I'd do?" (Threat)

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27:51 (+3) Davos Seaworth:

on the 62 Mormont soldiers: "If they're half as ferocious as their Lady, the Boltons are doomed." (Funny Line)

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How is this funny? He's complimenting her, not mocking her. -alicehanners

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2016 Jun 9
Why does it have to be mocking for it to be funny? It's a funny line, not an insult -Laxis

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2016 Jun 9 righteous likes this
Why does it have to be mocking for it to be funny? It's a funny line, not an insult -Laxis

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2016 Jun 9
I thought it a particularly funny jab and a wink to the viewer about Ramsay's "twenty good men." -dopeghoti

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2016 Jun 12 Laxis and righteous like this
It's funny because I burst out laughing even knowing it was coming -righteous

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2016 Jun 30

29:17 (+3) Brynden Tully (Blackfish):

The Blackfish: "I assume you're here to fulfill the vow you gave my niece. I don't see Sansa and Arya."
Jaime: "I don't have them."
The Blackfish: "Pity. Do you wish to resume your captivity?" (Witty Insult)

30:07 (+3) Brynden Tully (Blackfish):

Jaime Lanniser: "But if you surrender, I'll spare the lives of your men. On my honor."
Blackfish: "Your honor? Bargaining with oathbreakers is like building on quicksand." (Witty Insult)

30:46 (+3) Brynden Tully (Blackfish):

to Jaime: "We have enough provisions for two years. Do you have two years, Kingslayer?" (Threat)

30:59 (+3) Brynden Tully (Blackfish):

Jaime Lannister: "You clearly have no intention of saving your men's lives. Why did you come treat with me?"
Blackfish: "Sieges are dull. And I wanted to see you in person, get the measure of you."
Jaime: "Well, now you have."
Blackfish: "Aye, now I have. I'm disappointed." (Witty Insult)

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Deaths

+1 for Khal Moro

Special

3:52 (+3) Brienne of Tarth:

Septon Ray: "How many men did it take to cut you down?"
Sandor Clegane: "Just one."
Ray: "Whew... he must have been some kind of a monster."
Sandor: "He was a woman." (Special)

21:39 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime smacks Black Walder with his golden hand as he gives a lesson on threats.

Jaime: "Only a fool makes threats he's not prepared to carry out. Now let's say I threatened to hit you unless you shut your mouth, but you kept talking. What do you think I'd do?"
Black Walder: "I don't give a rat's-" *smack* (Special)

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That is irrefutable evidence that Black Walder was injured physically by Jaime's attack. Basically Oberyn 2.0 /s -10100100101

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2016 Jun 7
To clarify, the Oberyn line was a joke but I do agree with nsimmonds about the minor injury to a named character. -10100100101

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2016 Jun 7 wpearsal likes this
top notch investigative work, @nsimmonds! -nyan

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