Matchup: The Last Mojitos vs Queen in the North for Ep 1

Pentos Throne (Public #1213)

The Last Mojitos (jeremymunene)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Thrones	Special	Feels
Jon Snow	#4	32	6	3	2	3	18
Gendry	#28	11	0	0	0	6	5
Davos Seaworth	#21	3	0	0	0	3	0
Jaime Lannister	#9	3	0	0	0	0	3
Eddison Tollett	#40	3	0	0	0	0	3
Archmaester Ebrose	#45	0	0	0	0	0	0
Gregor Clegane (The Mountain)	#16	0	0	0	0	0	0
Daario Naharis	#33	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		52	6	3	2	12	29

Queen in the North (lesliegrant13)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Sex	Special	Feels
White Walker (Night King)	#7	12	9	0	0	3	0
Sandor Clegane (The Hound)	#18	9	3	6	0	0	0
Jorah Mormont	#19	8	0	0	5	3	0
Varys	#31	6	0	0	0	6	0
Drogon	#6	3	0	0	0	0	3
Full-bearded White Walkers This White Walker has a full beard and long hair. He is one of the Night King's Lieutenants.	#43	0	0	0	0	0	0
Bald White Walkers This White Walker is bald and has a round beard, and stands by the Night King as one of his lieutenants. He was present at the dragon battle over the frozen lake.	#42	0	0	0	0	0	0
Podrick Payne	#30	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		38	12	6	5	12	3

Political Wins

21:32 (+3) White Walker (Night King):

Tormund and the Night's Watch discovers the grisly scene at the Last Hearth, where the White Walkers have massacred the inhabits. (Victorious Battle)

Why it doesn't count to the white army as well? -guy.v

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2019 Apr 18
This is a very fair question. Traditionally for battles and gaining a castle, it's been attributed to only the commander (else you could start arguing that every individual soldier on the winning side gets to double up on those points). But having the entire army as a group draftable is something new this season. I feel like this could go either way, though it's a little weaker since we didn't see any on-screen wights in action. -nyan

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2019 Apr 18
Seems like if it's equal either way then the score should go to both or neither. My vote would be both. -mah13090

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2019 Apr 18
I agree it should also count for the white walker army. -hapesnova

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21:32 (+3) White Walker (Night King):

Tormund and the Night's Watch discovers the grisly scene at the Last Hearth, where the White Walkers have massacred the inhabits. (Acquire a New Castle/City/Army/Loot)

33:29 (+3) Jon Snow:

Rhaegal accepts Jon as a dragonrider as they take flight for the first time.
Jon: "I don't know how to ride a dragon."
Daenerys: "Nobody does. Until they ride a dragon." (New Follower/Prisoner)

submitted by nyan (approved!)

This is not explicitly in the rules, but I was thinking of setting this as a precedent - the first time a dragon and dragonrider pair up, it will be scored like a New Follower event for both. It's a bit like two characters agreeing to form an alliance. Any thoughts or protests to this? -nyan

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2019 Apr 15 dlapato likes this
Actually I forget that I did make it explicit for Rhaegal. Do people feel Jon is deserving of similar points for this? -nyan

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2019 Apr 15 the_catherine316, olinnbroderick3, ashjohri, gravesalex0, 6 others like this
It's kind of like acquiring a new weapon in a sense? -the_catherine316

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2019 Apr 15
I think we'd need to see if this happens again. I'm not sure riding him once is significant. -alicehanners

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37:01 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor receives a massive dragonglass battleaxe forged by Gendry, and thanks him with insults.
"You know who makes weapons for the Wildlings? Cripples and cocksuckers - which one are you?" (New Weapon)

46:46 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon finds out his true lineage as the trueborn son of Rhaegaer Targaryen and Lyanna Stark, and potentially the rightful King of the Seven Kingdoms.
Sam: "I had a High Septon's diary. Bran had... whatever Bran has. ... Your mother was Lyanna Stark. And your father - your real father - was Rhaegar Targaryen. You've never been a bastard. You're Aegon Targaryen, true heir to the Iron Throne." (Secret Discovery)

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51:24 (+3) White Walker (Night King):

The Night King has Ned Umber reanimated as a wight in the ruins of the Last Hearth. (New Follower/Prisoner)

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Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

35:36 (+3) Jon Snow:

to Daenerys, after his first dragon flight with Rhaegal: "You've completely ruined horses for me." (Funny Line)

37:05 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor thanks Gendry for his new battleaxe, forged from dragonglass.
"You know who makes weapons for the Wildlings? Cripples and cocksuckers - which one are you?" (Witty Insult)

37:42 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

"You're a cold little bitch aren't you? I guess that's why you're still alive." (Witty Insult)

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Acts of Intercourse

41:13 (+5) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah gently caresses the Khaleesi's elbow as he points out where Samwell is in the library. (Act of Intercourse)

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A Game of Thrones

9:53 (+1) Jon Snow:

Jon sits at the head of the table alongside Sansa as they host the Northern Lords at Winterfell. (Basic Seat)

11:52 (+1) Jon Snow:

Jon Snow takes a seat after responding to Lyanna Mormont's call out.

"...when I left Winterfell, I told you we need allies or we will die. I have brought those allies home to fight alongside us. I had a choice, keep my crown or protect the North. I chose the North." (Basic Seat)

Special

6:22 (+3) Varys:

Tyrion, as he and Varys arrive to a frigid Winterfell: "You should consider yourself lucky. At least your balls won't freeze off." (Special)

6:28 (+3) Varys:

Varys: "You take great offense at dwarf jokes, but love telling eunuch jokes. Why is that?"
Tyrion: "Because I have balls... and you don't" (Special)

22:09 (+3) Jon Snow:

Samwell Tarly: "You've never been a bastard." (Special)

29:51 (+3) Davos Seaworth:

Varys (observing banners): "The Karstarks."
Davos: "One of the better sigils. Beats an onion, anyway." (Special)

36:40 (+3) Gendry:

Gendry pours out the crucible of molten dragonglass, using it to cast obsidian arrowheads. (Special)

36:55 (+3) Gendry:

Gendry shows off the huge dragonglass battleaxe he forged. "It isn't easy making a blade that big with dragonglass." (Special)

41:30 (+3) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah reunites with Sam and they talk about his former Greyscale condition.
Dany: "The man who saved Ser Jorah when no one else could."
Jorah: "They could. They just wouldn't." (Special)

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51:26 (+3) White Walker (Night King):

Ned Umber is impaled on the wall of his keep, surrounded by a spiral of bloody body parts. (Special)

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I'd vote against the proliferation of specials that are so loosely tied to actual appearances/direct references to the character. -jedjackoway

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2019 Apr 15 nyan likes this
Tormund straight up says "It is a message from the Night King." -craigdietz20

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2019 Apr 17
This one didn't seem to get a lot of support but I'll add it actually. @jedjackoway that's a very good line of thought about new proposals, and generally it doesn't feel worthy to give points when characters are not even there (this is why the "references to..." Specials generally don't count if the characters aren't in the scene).

In this case my feeling is that this would be a good stat to count if there were generally a "Team White Walkers" draftable group (like team defenses for NFL fantasy). With the lack of characters, I think the Night King was drafted by many people as a stand-in for that. This also is hopefully not too OP (I expect we see this 1-2 times at most), especially for a character that's already top-tier. -nyan

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The Feels

8:24 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon arrives back home to Winterfell and embraces Bran, as Jon sees him for the first time in 7 seasons.
Jon: "Look at you. You're a man."
Bran: "Almost." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

16:00 (+5) Jon Snow:

Arya and Jon finally reunite in the Godswood of Winterfell and compare their fancy swords.
Arya: "I'm defending our family. And so is she (Sansa)."
Jon: "I'm her family too."
Arya: "Don't forget that." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

36:05 (+5) Jon Snow:

After Bran issues a dire warning to everyone that the White Walkers are coming and how they don't have any time for this, Jon and Dany take a romantic getaway to the frost-covered waterfall on dragon-back.
Jon: "It's cold up here for a southern girl."
Dany: "So keep your Queen warm." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

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Should also count for Dany -kremershell

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2019 Apr 15
What points would this get? -the_catherine316

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2019 Apr 15
“Heartwarming moments that are so few and far between on the show, as well as a consolation score for the heart-wrenching ones.
Also, a "you done fucked up" score for big regrets (see rulebook for criteria).
+5pts Warm Fuzzy Moment
+1pt Sad Feels
+1pt I've made a huge mistake.”

I would consider it a warm fuzzy moment.
-kremershell

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2019 Apr 15
This whole sequence made me want to vomit but I guess nausea is a feeling... -nyan

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2019 Apr 15 elaine likes this
Hmmmm maaaaaaybe -the_catherine316

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2019 Apr 15
It's clearly a heartwarming moment... No secret political agendas... Just plain true love kiss... -redcatscar

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36:34 (+3) Jon Snow:

As he tries to get his makeout session on with Daenerys, Jon enters a staring contest with Drogon who is watching with great interest. (Ridiculously Funny Moment)

36:34 (+3) Drogon:

As he tries to get his makeout session on with Daenerys, Jon enters a staring contest with Drogon who is watching with great interest. (Ridiculously Funny Moment)

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38:22 (+5) Gendry:

Arya and Gendry reunite in the Winterfell forge, and share some banter from their days on the road.
Gendry: "It's not a bad place to grow up, if it wasn't so cold."
Arya: "Stay close to that forge, then."
Gendry: "Is that a command, Lady Stark?"
Arya: "Don't call me that."
Gendry: "As you wish, m'lady." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

50:39 (+3) Eddison Tollett:

Edd and Tormund Giantsbane stumble upon each other at the Last Hearth.

Edd: "Stand back, he's got blue eyes!"
Tormund: "I've always had blue eyes!!" (Ridiculously Funny Moment)

submitted by niketbp (approved!)

Considering adding a category for "funny moments", that would apply to the Drogon/Jon interaction as well. The problem I'm struggling with is how to properly reward vs just throwing out free points to everybody who shows up in a scene. The funny line gives a score to Tormund who is the one delivering the payoff, it doesn't feel equitable that Edd and especially Beric are getting points just for being there. -nyan

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2019 Apr 16 mlopez likes this
Hmm yeah that's difficult. Perhaps not Beric then, since he was just there, but maybe Ed because he was a part of that interaction though? Tough to say :/ -niketbp

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2019 Apr 16 mlopez likes this
I agree, I think Ed should get something for that exchange -mlopez

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2019 Apr 16
What would be great is if we could come up with the scoring rubric for who gets points in a "funny scene" so there's a consistent guideline for future episodes. Drogon, Jon, Edd, Tormund feel like the deserving characthers here. This is also something I'd nudge towards the Feels category. -nyan

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53:29 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

After riding anonymously for a fortnight to reach Winterfell, Jaime discovers Bran has been sitting in the courtyard waiting for his "old friend" the whole time. (I've made a huge mistake.)

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Ooooooh I love this! -nyan

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2019 Apr 15 ddarko189 and mlopez like this
That doesn't account for the category of the "I've made a huge mistake".
The explanation for is: the "you done fucked up" moments where a character has done something that in hindsight was clearly a dumb, avoidable mistake.

But, Jaime doesn't do any dumb or avoidable mistake (or any mistake at all). -amitelran2110

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2019 Apr 16 tal.t, semion.g, guy.v, IPKOB like this
We'll see in the upcoming episode. It seems like it may be a mistake to have come to Winterfell at all. Definitely a worthwhile debate though. -nyan

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