Matchup: Jorah the Explorah vs Dinosaur Cheeseburger Backlfip for Ep 1

UH Linguists Final Season (Let's try this again)

Jorah the Explorah (james.grama)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Wine	Sex	Special	Feels
Euron Greyjoy	#5	33	6	6	5	10	6	0
Gendry	#28	11	0	0	0	0	6	5
Tormund Giantsbane	#21	6	0	3	0	0	0	3
Eddison Tollett	#37	3	0	0	0	0	0	3
Wight Army (Extras)	#12	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Salladhor Saan	#60	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Hot Pie	#53	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Full-bearded White Walkers This White Walker has a full beard and long hair. He is one of the Night King's Lieutenants.	#44	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		53	6	9	5	10	12	11

Dinosaur Cheeseburger Backlfip (schuelke)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults	Thrones	Special	Feels
Theon Greyjoy	#31	15	4	6	0	0	0	5
Daenerys Targaryen	#2	15	0	0	6	1	3	5
Beric Dondarrion	#47	13	10	0	0	0	3	0
Jaime Lannister	#15	3	0	0	0	0	0	3
Rhaegar Targaryen	#50	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Gregor Clegane (The Mountain)	#18	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Tycho Nestoris	#63	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Ellaria Sand	#34	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		46	14	6	6	1	6	13

Kills

27:15 (+2) Theon Greyjoy:

Theon kills a member of Euron's crew as he leads a squad of Ironborn on a rescue mission to save his sister Yara Greyjoy. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

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Original submission: "Theon and his team board the boat to save Yara, 4 arrows are used to kill people working on the boat. The camera then cuts to Theon and his team with Theon at the front with his bow and arrow cocked, surely he deserves some points for these kills?"

There were actually 5 kills and on-screen we see a squad of 4 (including Theon). Given the scenario I've scored 1 for Theon (Euron's men were killed in quick succession, so presumably they all landed their shots).

For future references, I *would* say this is a bit of a grey(joy) area, with the fudged assumption that they didn't have time to reload much, so Theon must've landed his first shot. If there were 5 arrow kills and Theon had boarded with 20 goodmen, I don't think he would have gotten any points. Similar for 200 arrow kills and 20 men shooting, or if we saw arrows flying around and missing. These scenarios would put enough plausibility that Theon did not land his shots.

The scoring criteria wants to see strong attribution happen on-screen, else we have submissions like "Tormund and Jon were like 2/10 of soldiers in the Battle of Bastards at this point and there's a pile of 150 bodies around them, clearly they did 20% of those kills". It ends up cheapening the points for legitimate kills the characters do 1:1. -nyan

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2019 Apr 16
Also so much for having a crew of elite mutes who can't warn each other in the event of a surprise attack, eh Euron? -nyan

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27:34 (+2) Theon Greyjoy:

Theon throws an axe into the skull of the Ironborn soldier guarding Yara Greyjoy. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

51:50 (+10) Beric Dondarrion:

As the wight version of Ned Umber reawakens on the wall of the keep, Beric stabs the wight with his burning sword, lighting the body on fire and disposing of the wight for good. (Kill of Named Character)

The initial kill should be credited to The Night King or Wight Army. Just saying. -imonaship12

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2019 Apr 15
We don't know swho did the kill. It could be any number of Wight riders, Wights or the Night King. -klov3r

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It was said on screen that its a message from the Night King- there should be at least some credit for that -Grog

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That flaming sword is so goddamn useful. -iris.hsu

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2019 Apr 15 nyan and mlopez like this
"A message from the night king" doesn't constitute the kill though. We've seen other walkers do this. Like in S1E1. Trust me, I'd love the points. I have him on my team. But it's not enough. The night king could be in control of someone who killed him, etc. -klov3r

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2019 Apr 16
Scores have been added for the Night King winning the battle and conquering the Last Hearth (these were missed previously). I think we might also consider that any named characters reappearing as wights count as "Followers" of the Night King even if we don't see it happen (this can be made explicit by a Special scoring rule). Proposal here: https://fantasora.com/event/3959 -nyan

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Political Wins

20:34 (+3) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron returns to King's Landing, have secured the services of the Golden Company for Cersei Lannister and the Crown. (Deals Brokered)

22:25 (+3) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron finds a way to charm himself into Cersei's cold graces.
Cersei: "You want a whore, buy one. You want a queen earn her."
Euron: "How? I've given her justice, an army and the Iron Fleet, yet she gives me no sign of affection. My heart is nearly broken." (Convincing Argument)

27:53 (+3) Theon Greyjoy:

After sneaking aboard Euron's ship, Theon frees his sister Yara. (New Follower/Prisoner)

29:07 (+3) Theon Greyjoy:

Yara: "You want to go to Wintefell. To fight for the Starks. Go. What is dead may never die."
Theon: "What is dead may never die." (House Words)

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

12:40 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Sansa: "What do dragons eat, anyway?"
Daenerys: "Whatever they want." (Threat)

19:58 (+3) Euron Greyjoy:

Cersei: "20,000 men is it? is it?"
Harry Strickland: "Yes, your Grace. A few died in transit."
Euron Greyjoy: "They cheated at dice. Or maybe I cheated. Someone cheated." (Funny Line)

This one feels a little marginal? -nyan

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2019 Apr 15 mlopez likes this
I laughed out loud! -christiandigby3

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2019 Apr 15 dlapato likes this
I chuckled -vjdev2015

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2019 Apr 15
This 'Funny Line' is garbage. Who actually laughed at this? -padrebojangles

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2019 Apr 18
@padrebojangles this category is going to be subjective and I don't disagree with you here. This will probably not happen this week but I'd like to open up more avenues for sentiment analysis (votes instead of likes) and provide an objective way to decide what counts. -nyan

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21:52 (+3) Euron Greyjoy:

Cersei: "You're insolent. I've executed men for less."
Euron: "They were lesser men." (Witty Insult)

33:11 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

(before Jon rides Rhaegal)
Jon: "What if he doesn't want me to?"
Daenerys: "Then I’ve enjoyed your company, Jon Snow" (Funny Line)

submitted by krystataylor14 (approved!)

50:40 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Eddison Tollet: "Stay back, he's got blue eyes!"
Tormund: "I've always had blue eyes!!!" (Funny Line)

Glasses of Wine Consumed

19:16 (+5) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron drinks from his flask while chatting with Yara Greyjoy onboard his ship. He offers to Yara but she is apparently too proud to sell herself out for the fantasy points. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Acts of Intercourse

25:25 (+5) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron chats with Cersei after a romp in her chambers. (Act of Intercourse)

25:25 (+5) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron's right cheek is glimpsed as he pulls up his britches in Cersei's bedchambers. (Non-sexual Nude Scene)

A Game of Thrones

10:23 (+1) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys takes her seat at the head table in the great hall of Winterfell between Jon Snow and Tyrion. (Basic Seat)

Special

5:14 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys debuts the season with a white double-breasted coat with matching red gloves and scarf. Even her horse is decked out to match! (Special)

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its 2019 and the lead female character is seriously scored by what she wears lol -ryanmcfarlane09

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2019 Apr 15
fwiw this was a suggestion added from multiple people and a few existing games have been tracking outfits. this is mostly game about tracking trivial/fun stats so I would pass too much value judgment on what people are interested in seeing. -nyan

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2019 Apr 15
I love it. Dany's outfits are a thing to behold and compared to Cersei who's got tons of specials, just having her titles read is a bit weak for a frontrunner.
-alicehanners

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25:53 (+3) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron questions Cersei about his performance compared to her other lovers.
Euron: "So how do I compare to the fat king?"
Cersei: "You're insulting my late husband?"
Euron: "Are you offended?"
Cersei: "Robert had a different whore every night, but he still didn't know his way around a woman's body."
Euron: "And the Kingslayer?"
Cersei: "You enjoy risking your neck, don't you?" (Special)

26:36 (+3) Euron Greyjoy:

to Cersei: "I'm going to put a prince in your belly." (Special)

36:40 (+3) Gendry:

Gendry pours out the crucible of molten dragonglass, using it to cast obsidian arrowheads. (Special)

36:55 (+3) Gendry:

Gendry shows off the huge dragonglass battleaxe he forged. "It isn't easy making a blade that big with dragonglass." (Special)

50:37 (+3) Beric Dondarrion:

Beric lights up his flaming sword so everyone can finally see what's going on in this dark-ass scene. (Special)

The Feels

29:17 (+5) Theon Greyjoy:

Theon and Yara share an embrace before they part ways to fight their separate parts of the war.
Yara: "You want to go to Wintefell. To fight for the Starks. Go. What is dead may never die."
Theon: "What is dead may never die."
Yara: "But kill the bastards anyway." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

36:04 (+5) Daenerys Targaryen:

After Bran issues a dire warning to everyone that the White Walkers are coming and how they don't have any time for this, Jon and Dany take a romantic getaway to the frost-covered waterfall on dragon-back.
Jon: "It's cold up here for a southern girl."
Dany: "So keep your Queen warm." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

38:22 (+5) Gendry:

Arya and Gendry reunite in the Winterfell forge, and share some banter from their days on the road.
Gendry: "It's not a bad place to grow up, if it wasn't so cold."
Arya: "Stay close to that forge, then."
Gendry: "Is that a command, Lady Stark?"
Arya: "Don't call me that."
Gendry: "As you wish, m'lady." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

50:39 (+3) Eddison Tollett:

Edd and Tormund Giantsbane stumble upon each other at the Last Hearth.

Edd: "Stand back, he's got blue eyes!"
Tormund: "I've always had blue eyes!!" (Ridiculously Funny Moment)

submitted by niketbp (approved!)

Considering adding a category for "funny moments", that would apply to the Drogon/Jon interaction as well. The problem I'm struggling with is how to properly reward vs just throwing out free points to everybody who shows up in a scene. The funny line gives a score to Tormund who is the one delivering the payoff, it doesn't feel equitable that Edd and especially Beric are getting points just for being there. -nyan

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Hmm yeah that's difficult. Perhaps not Beric then, since he was just there, but maybe Ed because he was a part of that interaction though? Tough to say :/ -niketbp

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2019 Apr 16 mlopez likes this
I agree, I think Ed should get something for that exchange -mlopez

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2019 Apr 16
What would be great is if we could come up with the scoring rubric for who gets points in a "funny scene" so there's a consistent guideline for future episodes. Drogon, Jon, Edd, Tormund feel like the deserving characthers here. This is also something I'd nudge towards the Feels category. -nyan

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50:39 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Edd and Tormund Giantsbane stumble upon each other at the Last Hearth.

Edd: "Stand back, he's got blue eyes!"
Tormund: "I've always had blue eyes!!" (Ridiculously Funny Moment)

53:29 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

After riding anonymously for a fortnight to reach Winterfell, Jaime discovers Bran has been sitting in the courtyard waiting for his "old friend" the whole time. (I've made a huge mistake.)

submitted by hindsight44 (approved!)

Ooooooh I love this! -nyan

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2019 Apr 15 ddarko189 and mlopez like this
That doesn't account for the category of the "I've made a huge mistake".
The explanation for is: the "you done fucked up" moments where a character has done something that in hindsight was clearly a dumb, avoidable mistake.

But, Jaime doesn't do any dumb or avoidable mistake (or any mistake at all). -amitelran2110

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We'll see in the upcoming episode. It seems like it may be a mistake to have come to Winterfell at all. Definitely a worthwhile debate though. -nyan

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