Matchup: She'll Brienne Comin' Round the Mountain When She Comes vs Our President is a White Walker for Ep 4

Jorah's Unrequited Love

She'll Brienne Comin' Round the Mountain When She Comes (emtimmins)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults	Wine	Sex	Thrones	Deaths	Special	Feels
Jon Snow	#4	55	0	12	3	15	0	2	0	3	20
Tormund Giantsbane	#14	52	0	3	9	10	5	0	0	12	13
Bronn	#24	22	1	0	15	5	0	1	0	0	0
Podrick Payne	#34	20	0	0	0	10	10	0	0	0	0
Euron Greyjoy	#17	12	0	11	0	0	0	1	0	0	0
Yara Greyjoy	#27	3	0	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Beric Dondarrion	#37	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0
Drogon	#7	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		166	1	29	27	40	15	4	2	15	33

Our President is a White Walker (ashley.pifer10)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults	Wine	Sex	Thrones	Deaths	Special	Feels
Jaime Lannister	#11	56	0	0	6	20	10	2	0	0	18
Sansa Stark	#10	38	0	6	3	10	0	1	0	3	15
Daenerys Targaryen	#1	22	0	6	3	5	0	2	0	6	0
Gregor Clegane (The Mountain)	#21	10	10	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Varys	#31	8	0	3	0	0	0	2	0	3	0
Jorah Mormont	#20	7	0	0	0	0	5	0	2	0	0
Wight Giants (extras)	#30	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Meera Reed	#40	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		141	10	15	12	35	15	7	2	12	33

Kills

40:01 (+1) Bronn:

Bronn punches Tyrion square in the nose, rendering it bloody. "I've never hit a dwarf before, but say another word and I will belt you." (Minor Injury of Named Character)

75:52 (+10) Gregor Clegane (The Mountain):

Cersei carries through on her threat as the Mountain beheads the prisoner Missandei in front of Daenerys and her advisors during the attempted parley. (Kill of Named Character)

Political Wins

6:17 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon quotes the Night's Watch oath to end his eulogy to the dead at Winterfell. "They were the shields that guarded the realms of men. And we shall never see their like again." (House Words)

33:08 (+3) Yara Greyjoy:

In the War Council meeting, Varys mentions that Yara Greyjoy has retaken the Iron Islands. (Acquire a New Castle/City/Army/Loot)

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33:53 (+3) Jon Snow:

Tyrion and Jon convince Daenerys to take a more cautioned approach to the war and lay siege to King's Landing instead of destroying it.

Daenerys: "No matter how many lords turn against her, as long as she sits on the Iron Throne, she can call herself Queen of the Seven Kingdoms. We need the capital."
Tyrion: "I watched the people of King's Landing rebel against their king when they were hungry, and that was before winter began. Give them the opportunity and they will cast Cersei aside."
Jon: "We'll surround the city. If the Iron Fleet tries to ferry in more food, the dragons will destroy them. If the Lannisters and the Golden Company attack, we'll defeat them in the field."
Tyrion: "Once the people see that Cersei is our only enemy, her reign is over." (Convincing Argument)

34:55 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon overrules Sansa's objections and pledges the weakened Northern forces to fight for Daenerys immediately.

to Sansa: "The Northern forces will honor their promises and their allegiance to the Queen of the Seven Kingdoms."
turning to Daenerys: "What you command, we will obey." (Executive Decision)

34:57 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys' pleas to Jon were effective, convincing him to take her side over the Stark family's in pledging the unconditional loyalty of the Northern troops. (Convincing Argument)

38:17 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Arya and Sansa learn of Jon Snow's true heritage as a secret Targaryen and heir to the Iron Throne. (Secret Discovery)

38:17 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon breaks his promise to Daenerys, secretly telling Arya and Sansa about his heritage as a Targaryen and heir to the Iron Throne as long as they pinky swore not to tell anyone. (Act of Betrayal)

He doesn’t promise her anything -alicehanners

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Quite the opposite in fact; he was quite clear that he felt his family had a right to know. -dopeghoti

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2019 May 8
Since he makes them swear not to tell anyone, doesn't it imply it's something he's doing behind Daenerys' back? -nyan

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2019 May 8
I think him making them promise was more so other people didn’t find out, rather than so Daenerys didn’t find out they knew, nah? -conor_finlay

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He didn’t promise Daenerys he wouldn’t tell, she just made it clear that there might be consequences if he did. -conor_finlay

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46:50 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Sansa breaks her promise to Jon, divulging his secret heritage to Tyrion Lannister. "What if there's someone else? Someone better?" (Act of Betrayal)

50:36 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon gives charge of Ghost to Tormund, to take him back to his natural habitat north of the Wall. (New Follower/Prisoner)

51:22 (+3) Varys:

Varys learns of Jon's parentage through the game of secret discovery telephone.

Varys: "How many others know?"
Tyrion: "Including us? Eight."
Varys: "Well, then it's not a secret anymore. It's information." (Secret Discovery)

Given the quote, I think the buck stops here with respect to awarding this further down the chain. -nyan

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Surely if 8 people knowing makes it information, the 8th person to know (Varys) discovers info and not a secret? Varys’ quot afterwards kinda voids these points nah? -conor_finlay

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2019 May 10 nyan likes this
quote* -conor_finlay

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2019 May 10
Also, Varys’ is actually the 9th person to know. -conor_finlay

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53:57 (+5) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron and the Iron Fleet ambush Daenerys Targaryen's fleet on their way to Dragonstone, shooting Rhaegal out of the sky from their ship-mounted Scorpions. (Kill of Named Character (Orchestrated))

This was originally scored as a full Kill for Euron but changed to an Orchestrated Kill since there wasn't any on-screen evidence for whether Euron fired any of the killing bolts. https://fantasora.com/event/4581

Note that getting points for what your army does is not generally a score (aside from the Battle Victory), and this is a new category without a lot of precedents. In general it feels like Euron is deserving of this since Euron plans out the ambush and Rhaegal is caught unawares, e.g. is a sitting duck. We wouldn't want to count this category for say, every character killed by the Night King in the Battle of Winterfell. -nyan

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2019 May 7 imonaship12 likes this
If that is the case shouldn't Qyburn also get points for creating the scorpion 2.0 -Zaibin and Aadil

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Is this a substantial revamp of the original Scorpion? Or did they just make a lot more of them? -nyan

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It was earlier shown that Scorpion 1.0 was useless and did no real appreciable damage; this seems to either be a significant redesign, or two _extraordinarily_ lucky shots that just happened to hit the spots that were wounded in the Battle of Winterfell by the Ice Dragon. -dopeghoti

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55:45 (+3) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron's Iron Fleet executes a devastating attack on Daenerys' armada, shooting down one of her dragons and sinking most of her ships just outside of Dragonstone. (Victorious Battle)

57:23 (+3) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron has captured Missandei and delivered her to King's Landing following the surprise attack on Daenerys' fleet. (New Follower/Prisoner)

59:07 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys ignores Varys' pleas and proceeds with her plan to take King's Landing by force.

Varys: "I beg you, Your Grace. Do not destroy the city you came to save. Do not become what you have always struggled to defeat."
Daenerys: "Do you believe we're here for a reason, Lord Varys? I'm here to free the world from tyrants. That is my destiny and I will serve it, no matter the cost." (Executive Decision)

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

14:47 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund demands Jon finish off his horn of wine in front of a celebratory crowd at the Feast of Winterfell.

Tormund: "We have to celebrate our victory."
Jon: "Vomiting is not celebrating."
Tormund: "...yes, it is." (Funny Line)

15:42 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime and Brienne play a drinking game of guesses.

Jaime: "You... are an only child."
Brienne: "I told you I was."
Jaime: "You didn't."
Brienne: "I did."
Jaime: "I surmised it." (Funny Line)

18:54 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

"Now, which one of you cowards shit in my pants?" (Funny Line)

21:27 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Sansa: "... he got what he deserved. I gave it to him."
Sandor: "How?"
Sansa: "Hounds." (Funny Line)

25:24 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Brienne: "It's the first thing I learnt when I came to the North. Keep your fire going. Every time you leave the room, put more wood on."
Jaime: "... You know the first thing I learned in the North? I hate the fucking North." (Funny Line)

31:40 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys demands subservience from Jon to keep his Targaryen identity from his family.

Jon: "You are my Queen. Nothing will change that. And they are my family. We can live together."
Daenerys: "We can. I've just told you how." (Threat)

39:22 (+3) Bronn:

Bronn comments after hearing of Jaime's relationship with Brienne.

"I knew you were fucking her. A pair of tall, blond toffs. Must be like looking in the mirror." (Witty Insult)

39:52 (+3) Bronn:

Tyrion: "You're a knight, thanks to me."
Bronn: "Thanks to me. And that title's worth as much as a blond hair from your brother's ballsack." (Witty Insult)

40:05 (+3) Bronn:

Tyrion: "You broke my nose!"
Bronn: "I did not break your nose."
Tyrion: "How do you know?"
Bronn: "Because I've been breaking noses since I was your size, and I know what it sounds like." (Funny Line)

40:50 (+3) Bronn:

Tyrion: "May I speak?
Bronn: "Why not? Only death will shut you up." (Witty Insult)

41:48 (+3) Bronn:

Jaime: "Highgarden will never belong to a cutthroat."
Bronn: "Who were your ancestors, the ones who made your family rich? Fancy lads in silk? They were fucking cutthroats.
That's how all the great houses started, isn't it? With a hard bastard who was good at killing people. Kill a few hundred people, they make you a lord. Kill a few thousand, they make you king. And then all your cocksucking grandsons can ruin the family with their cocksucking ways." (Funny Line)

47:26 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon: "Rhaegal needs to heal. He doesn't need me weighing him down."
Tormund: "You weigh as much as two fleas fucking." (Witty Insult)

49:36 (+3) Jon Snow:

Gilly: "If it's a boy, we want to name him Jon."
Jon: "I hope it's a girl." (Funny Line)

Glasses of Wine Consumed

9:00 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon drinks from his cup at the head table as he notices Daenerys' spaced out look. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

9:02 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sansa drinks from her cup at the head table as the awkward family dinner commences. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

9:50 (+5) Podrick Payne:

Podrick drinks from his cup as Gendry makes his way through the aisle. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

9:52 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime drinks as Gendry scoots past him and Brienne in the aisle. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

9:53 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sansa stuffs her face with another cup as Gendry scoots his way down the aisle. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

A note on the scoring criteria here - normally it's scored per-glass in a scene (e.g. multiple sips not counted unless a refill is seen in between). However this ended up being such a long scene that there weren't the traditional cuts in between (like with the fireplace scenes in E2). I decided to treat it like a battle and somewhat arbitrarily divide the Feast of Winterfell into "scenes" based on which groups of character we cut to. Not perfect and open to thoughts on this rubric.

We probably wouldn't backdate scores this season but I'm coming around to counting every sip instead. Feels like the "not counted until refilled" is not the most fun mechanic, this was originally defined to get the numbers closest to actual "Glasses of Wine Consumed". -nyan

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I think if you’re changing it to every sip it’s unfair not to back date it. Think how many points tormund would have missed out on in ep2 for instance. -conor_finlay

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11:40 (+5) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys drinks as the crowd celebrates Gendry's promotion to Lord Baratheon of Storm's End. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

12:24 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Brienne and Jaime share a drink at the Feast of Winterfell.

Jaime: "We've fought dead things and lived to talk about it.If this isn't the time to drink, when is?" (Glass of Wine Consumed)

12:31 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund glugs straight from the pitcher during the Feast of Winterfell. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

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15:02 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon drinks as they the Feast of Winterfell toast to Daenerys the Dragon Queen and Arya Stark, the Hero of Winterfell (Glass of Wine Consumed)

15:02 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund drinks from his horn as the crowd toasts both Daenerys and Arya. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

16:07 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon drinks in the background as Tormund regales the crowd with the legends of Jon Snow. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

18:25 (+5) Podrick Payne:

Podrick does a nervous drink as Tyrion guesses that Brienne is a virgin at the Feast of Winterfell. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

25:41 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime pours himself a cup and drinks in Brienne's bedchambers as he jealously questions her about Tormund Giantsbane. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

39:01 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime and Tyrion drink after toasting to Jaime's new relationship with Brienne. "To climbing mountains." (Glass of Wine Consumed)

41:49 (+5) Bronn:

Bronn has a sip from Tyrion's tasty beverage as he holds both of the Lannister brothers at bay with a crossbow. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Acts of Intercourse

3:37 (+5) Jorah Mormont:

Daenerys gives Jorah a parting kiss on his forehead as his body lies atop the funeral pyre. (Act of Intercourse)

19:48 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

After being spurned by Brienne, Tormund rebounds with a Northern girl who fancies him at the Feast of Winterfell.

Northern girl: " You can touch me. I'm not afraid of Wildlings."
Tormund: "Maybe you should be."
(Act of Intercourse)

20:47 (+10) Podrick Payne:

Podrick has a girl in hand and chats up another Northern beauty before all three abscond into a dark corner of Winterfell. (Act of Intercourse)

He was chatting up two 😏 -imonaship12

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2019 May 6 nyan likes this
Bronn didn't get 5 points per girl when he was in bed with 3 in KL. But podrick walking out of the room with 2 gets him 10 points? Come on now -danrog17

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Bronn was interrupted. -conor_finlay

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Sarra is one of the two gals, shouldn’t she get intercourse points? And Willa went off with Tormund -alicehanners

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Both are now added (Emer was the other actress with Pod). And they also got 10pts each, nice. -nyan

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27:20 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime fumbles awkwardly in his first attempts at flirting with someone who is not a sibling, but ultimately succeeds in wooing Brienne with the 'ol "my it's quite hot in here". (Act of Intercourse)

65:39 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime sits brooding in front of the fireplace after a 2nd night with Brienne, reflecting on how one just can't go back to non-incest after hitting that high-grade sibling kush. (Act of Intercourse)

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A Game of Thrones

8:54 (+1) Sansa Stark:

Sansa sits at the head table during the celebratory feast at Winterfell. (Basic Seat)

8:54 (+1) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys sits at the head table during the celebratory feast at Winterfell. (Basic Seat)

8:54 (+1) Jon Snow:

Jon awkwardly sits at center of the head table between Sansa and Daenerys during the celebratory feast at Winterfell. (Basic Seat)

11:41 (+1) Jon Snow:

Jon sits back down after raising a toast and giving his cup of wine to Gendry (Basic Seat)

14:53 (+1) Varys:

Varys sits in a chair at the edge of the head table as Tormund and the hall give a toast. "To Daenerys, the Dragon Queen!" (Basic Seat)

15:20 (+1) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys sits back down to brood after toasting to Arya Stark, the Hero of Winterfell (Basic Seat)

38:29 (+1) Jaime Lannister:

Tyrion sits with Jaime in front of a fireplace in Winterfell, as Tyrion ribs Jaime on his newfound romance with Brienne. (Basic Seat)

39:37 (+1) Bronn:

Bronn takes a seat with his hostages as he negotiates with Tyrion and Jaime at crossbow-point. (Basic Seat)

51:33 (+1) Varys:

Varys sits down with Tyrion in the cabin below deck, discussing the secret of Jon's parentage. (Basic Seat)

53:50 (+1) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron sits in the gunner's seat of the Scorpion aboard his ship, as the Iron Fleet chases down Daenerys' dragons. (Basic Seat)

65:17 (+1) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime sits on a chair in front of the fireplace after a 2nd night with Brienne, reflecting on how non-incest just doesn't really do it for him. (Basic Seat)

Deaths

3:21 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah's body lies on top of a funeral pyre after the Battle of Winterfell. (Dead Body Appearance)

7:07 (+2) Beric Dondarrion:

Beric's body lies atop a funeral pyre after the Battle of Winterfell. (Dead Body Appearance)

Special

14:55 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys switches up to a burgundy dress at the Feast of Winterfell (Special)

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19:05 (+12) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund eagerly stares at Brienne as she excuses herself to take a piss. His 3-second gaze is unfortunately interrupted by Jaime. (Special)

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Also would “icy fucks” count as a witty insult? Or does it have to be said directly to the target of the insult? -conor_finlay

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2019 May 7
Doesn't have to be said at anyone, and for Tormund these kind of half-bleed into funny lines. I did add the "shit in my pants" line right after "icy fucks", here: https://fantasora.com/event/4628

I could go either way on this icy fucks line. -nyan

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2019 May 8
I feel like he definitely does more than 3 points worth of staring here? He stares straight into her eyes for 5/6 seconds as he walks over to her. He’s speaking to everyone but his eyes are fixed right on hers and he also happens to be talking about “looking into blue eyes”. His second stare is about 5/6 seconds aswell, from the end of his laugh to the moment Jaime steps in front of him and his eyes move to him. -conor_finlay

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2019 May 8
I know he doesn’t get points for just looking at Brienne but these two stares are definitely more in line with the stares he was scored for in episode 2. -conor_finlay

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2019 May 8
That was my bad, I meant to mark this as 3 seconds and 9 points. This is the portion that you can see Tormund's eyes during the stare in the screenshot, between Brienne's "pardon me for a moment" and Jaime interrupting. The 5s is about right if you include the beginning where we just see the back of his head. Don't feel too strongly about the cutoff here, call it even at 4s? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's subjective but I feel that before this with the "icy fucks" he is mostly jovial and talking to her like a person instead of objectifying her? -nyan

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2019 May 8
Yeah that’s fair in regard to the “icy fucks” part. I’d still argue that he should get the whole 5/6 seconds for the second stars as we can still see he’s looking at her even though we can’t see his eyes the whole time. Ultimately it’s up to you though. -conor_finlay

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2019 May 8

23:06 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Sansa cries over Theon's body as the Northern forces pay their respects to the dead after the Battle of Winterfell. (Special)

37:13 (+3) Jon Snow:

Arya: "You're my brother. Not my half-brother or my bastard brother. My brother." (Special)

44:16 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys debuts a new grey-paneled jacket with a red cape. (Special)

61:32 (+3) Varys:

Varys: "He (Jon Snow) is a man, which makes him more appealing to the lords of Westeros, whose support we are going to need."
Tyrion: "Joffrey was a man. I don't think a cock is a true qualification, as I'm sure you'd agree." (Special)

The Feels

4:30 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sansa grieves over the body of Theon Greyjoy as the forces at Winterfell gather to honor the dead. She leaves him with her Stark brooch before lighting the funeral pyre. (Sad Feels)

5:25 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon gives a eulogy to the fallen as the living pay their respects after the Battle of Winterfell.

"We're here to say goodbye to our brothers and sisters. To our fathers and mothers. To our friends.
Our fellow men and women who set aside their differences to fight together and die together so that others might live.
Everyone in this world owes them a debt that can never be repaid.
It is our duty and our honor to keep them alive in memory for those who come after us, and those who come after them, for as long as men draw breath.
They were the shields that guarded the realms of men.
And we shall never see their like again." (Sad Feels)

16:44 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund continually splashes wine EVERYWHERE as he regales the crowd with the legend of Jon Snow. (Ridiculously Funny Moment)

19:48 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund's heart is broken as he regales his story to Clegane. "And after all that, this fucker comes north and takes her from me. Just takes her, like that. I mean it, Clegane. My heart is broken." (Sad Feels)

22:07 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sandor Clegane and Sansa talk about their long journeys and roads not taken.

Sandor: " You've changed, Little Bird. None of it would have happened if you'd left King's Landing with me. No Littlefinger, no Ramsay none of it."
Sansa: "Without Littlefinger, and Ramsay, and the rest... I would have stayed a Little Bird all my life." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

37:18 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Arya and Sansa stage a family intervention with Jon Snow to bring him back to the Stark side.

Jon: "I've never been a Stark."
Sansa: "You are. You're just as much Ned Stark's child as any of us."
Arya: "You're my brother. Not my half-brother or my bastard brother. My brother." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

37:18 (+5) Jon Snow:

48:32 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon and Tormund say their final farewells, as Tormund leaves to take the Free Folk home beyond the Wall. (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

48:32 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon and Tormund say their final farewells, as Tormund leaves to take the Free Folk home beyond the Wall.

Tormund: "It isn't home. We need room to wander. I'll take them back through Castle Black as soon as the winter storms pass. Back where we belong." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

49:52 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon and Sam say their goodbyes at Winterfell.

Sam: "You're the best friend I ever had."
Jon: "You too, Sam." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

56:50 (+15) Jaime Lannister:

After two days of playing house with Brienne, Jaime receives news of the events in King's Landing and reflects on where his true passions lie.

"You think I'm a good man? I pushed a boy out a tower window, crippled him for life for Cersei. I strangled my cousin with my own hands just to get back to Cersei. I would have murdered every man, woman and child in Riverrun for Cersei. She's hateful. And so am I." (Sad Feels)

65:09 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

After two nights in bed with Brienne, Jaime lies awake and reflects on how non-incest just really doesn't do it for him. (I've made a huge mistake.)

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