Matchup: Winter is here. vs Not Today for Ep 2

Winter is here. (clairehapke)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Wine	Thrones	Special	Feels
Tyrion Lannister	#3	27	0	18	5	4	0	0
Jon Snow	#2	12	3	0	0	1	3	5
Totals		39	3	18	5	5	3	5

Not Today (briannalevin)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Thrones	Special	Feels
Daenerys Targaryen	#1	17	3	9	2	3	0
Sansa Stark	#4	14	3	0	3	3	5
Totals		31	6	9	5	6	5

Political Wins

6:16 (+3) Jon Snow:

Daenerys addresses Jon as Warden of the North when asking his opinion on the Jaime Lannister matter, confirming his new position under his regime. (New Title)

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Also these are in the rules:
Titles are like WWE championships - points are awarded for each title gained and re-gained (e.g. losing and winning titles repeatedly makes you an 8x WWE Intercontinental Champion. Holding and defending the title for 8 years still just counts as 1x)
-hindsight44

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2019 Apr 22
I might be wrong, but wouldn't it be a reduced title from king in the north to warden of the north? -imonaship12

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2019 Apr 22 chadbrathwaite likes this
I think if we get really technical about it, King in the North and Warden of the North are mutually exclusive - you can only be Warden for a reigning monarch, which implies you're not King in the North. Per the WWE criteria, any title change counts even if it sounds like a demotion (one could argue it's a smaller fish in a bigger pond scenario). -nyan

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2019 Apr 22 alicehanners, imonaship12, mlopez, robert.picard like this

23:25 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Theon returns North and pledges his services to Sansa. "I want to fight for Winterfell, Lady Sansa. If you'll have me." (New Follower/Prisoner)

Saying Jaime shouldn't be trusted, attacked her father and tried to destroy her house and family should get politics and insult points. -brendan.hamme

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2019 Apr 23 julielaurek, marr.virginia, vphardt like this
Sansa should also get political points for welcoming Jaime into the fold on Brienne's suggestion. That's a follower and Sansa was the one who gave the word. -brendan.hamme

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2019 Apr 23 julielaurek, marr.virginia, vphardt like this
She should also get political points for demanding to know what happens to the north after Daenerys wins. -brendan.hamme

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2019 Apr 23 julielaurek, marr.virginia, vphardt like this
LMAO! This just made my day -christiandigby3

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2019 Apr 23 nyan likes this
Following up, for various reasons none of these were scored.

Insult to Jaime: very plain description, wasn't much of a good line or "witty" insult in there

Convincing to spare Jaime: this was discussed, ultimately it was decided to score points only for Brienne and not give the group project credits to Tyrion/Sansa /Jon

Talking to Daenerys: she brought up the topic but didn't get Daenerys to concede or agree to anything. Kind of like football, just having a rushing *attempt* isn't supposed to get you any points. -nyan

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2019 Apr 25

54:30 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys learns that Jon Snow may be the trueborn son of her brother, Rhaegar Targaryen, and a rival claimant to the Iron Throne. (Secret Discovery)

I didn't keep proper track of how this category was scored, but does it really count as a "secret discovery" if a person tells you his/her secret rather straight-forward, that means, without a real "act of discovering" on the side of the scoring character? -Lem Lemoncake

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2019 Apr 23
I need to dig deep (or maybe build a search function!), but there was a long discussion and this was changed around S6 or so. The main impetus was people learning things from Bran, which gave them power to decide what to do with that information. Now the main criteria in the rulebooks is "exclusivity" of the secret holders, along with how important the secret information itself is. -nyan

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2019 Apr 23 Lem Lemoncake likes this
I see, thanks for the explanation :) -Lem Lemoncake

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2019 Apr 23

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

3:09 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

to Jaime Lannister: "Your sister pledged to send her army north... I don’t see an army. I see one man with one hand." (Witty Insult)

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3:52 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Tyrion: "Your Grace, I know my brother-"
Daenerys: "Like you knew your sister?" (Witty Insult)

12:40 (+3) Tyrion Lannister:

Tyrion comments on the Lannister brothers reunion as they are spat upon by Northerners.

"Well, here we are... together again. And the masses rejoice." (Funny Line)

13:41 (+3) Tyrion Lannister:

Jaime: "Don't be too hard on yourself. She fooled me more than anybody."
Tyrion: "She never fooled you. You always knew exactly what she was. And you loved her anyway." (Witty Insult)

14:06 (+3) Tyrion Lannister:

Tyrion: "So, we're going to die. At Winterfell. Not the death I would've chosen. I always pictured myself dying in my own bed, at the age of 80, with a belly fully of wine and a [in unison with Jaime] girl's mouth around my cock." (Funny Line)

21:36 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys: "I'm here because I love your brother. And I trust him. And I know he's true to his word. He's only the second man in my life I can say that about."
Sansa: "Who was the first?"
Daenerys: "Someone taller." (Funny Line)

30:43 (+3) Tyrion Lannister:

Tyrion: "You've had a strange journey."
Bran: "Stranger than most."
Tyrion: "I'd like to hear about it.
Bran: "It's a long story."
Tyrion: "If only we were in a castle, in the middle of winter with nowhere to go." (Funny Line)

34:58 (+3) Tyrion Lannister:

to Jaime: "I wish father were here. I would love to see the look on his face when he realizes his two sons are about to die defending Winterfell." (Funny Line)

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36:17 (+3) Tyrion Lannister:

Brienne: "We didn't meant to interrupt, we were just looking for someplace warm to-"
Tyrion: "-to contemplate your imminent death. You've come to the right place." (Funny Line)

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Glasses of Wine Consumed

34:50 (+5) Tyrion Lannister:

Tyrion drinks in front of the fireplace at Winterfell as he chats with Jaime. "I wish father were here." (Glass of Wine Consumed)

He drinks in every scene after this, it doesn't count? -guy.v

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2019 Apr 23 hapesnova likes this
He also offered and poured glasses to other people. In adition, he overflowing a cup of glass and disobey lady Brienne oreder. -guy.v

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2019 Apr 23 hapesnova likes this
If you can find me a timestamp that would be great. I watched for this but aside from Jaime and Podrick, none of the characters actually drink anything after the first scene (they only hold the cups). -nyan

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2019 Apr 23

A Game of Thrones

2:45 (+1) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys sits at the head of the table in Winterfall's hall as she interrogates Jaime. (Basic Seat)

3:12 (+1) Jon Snow:

Jon is zoned out in his seat as the rest of the court in Winterfell interrogates Jaime. (Basic Seat)

4:29 (+1) Sansa Stark:

Sansa is seated at the head table in Winterfell as the court interrogates Jaime Lannister. (Basic Seat)

18:38 (+1) Sansa Stark:

Sansa sits with Lord Royce as they discuss what to do with the gates for the upcoming battle. "Keep them open for as long as you can, there are still people coming in from the countryside." (Basic Seat)

20:00 (+1) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys sits down with Sansa during their 1:1 chat. (Basic Seat)

20:01 (+1) Sansa Stark:

Sansa sits down with Daenerys during their 1:1 chat. (Basic Seat)

30:43 (+1) Tyrion Lannister:

Tyrion sits down to hear Bran's story.

Bran: "It's a long story."
Tyrion: "If only we were in a castle, in the middle of winter with nowhere to go." (Basic Seat)

34:50 (+1) Tyrion Lannister:

Tyrion sits in a chair by the fireplace at Winterfell, chatting with Jaime. "I wish father were here." (Basic Seat)

44:39 (+1) Tyrion Lannister:

Davos and the fireplace crew continue sitting. (Basic Seat)

51:06 (+1) Tyrion Lannister:

Tyrion sits as Davos declares "we're out of wine" to the fireplace crew. (Basic Seat)

Special

2:49 (+3) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys rocks a lighter crimson and gray coat inside the hall of Winterfell. (Special)

23:25 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Sansa eyes well up as Theon arrives to Winterfell with the Ironborn to pledge his services. (Special)

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54:51 (+3) Jon Snow:

to Daenerys: "So the last thing she did as she bled to death on her birthing bed was give the boy to her brother Ned Stark - to raise as his bastard." (Special)

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The Feels

23:25 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sansa and Theon share a heartfelt hug as he returns to the North with his Ironborn.

"I want to fight for Winterfell, Lady Sansa. If you'll have me." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

34:25 (+5) Jon Snow:

The three remaining Night's Watch members share some banter and reflect on their beginnings.
Samwell: "Think back to where we started. Us, Grenn, Pyp."
Jon: "Now it's just us three."
Edd: "Last man left, burn the rest of us." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

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