Matchup: Kanye Westeros vs The night is dark and full of tear'n up dat ass! for Ep 9

Kanye Westeros (ljtaban)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Wine	Deaths	Special
Jon Snow The bastard son of Ned Stark, and the current Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. After guiding the Wildlings to safety in the aftermath of the Battle of Castle Black and the attack on Hardhome, he was betrayed by a mutiny of the Night's Watch, and left for dead in the snow.	#8	71	45	9	5	0	12
Three-eyed raven A mysterious man who lives far north of the Wall with the Children of the Forest. He has been guiding Bran's dreams through the form of a three-eyed raven.	#41	1	0	0	0	1	0
Khal Moro The leader of a new Khalasar of Dothraki.	#40	1	0	0	0	1	0
Bran Stark The fourth of the Stark children. A greenseer and a warg, Bran has mystical visions of the future and the ability to leap into the minds of others to control them - power he is only beginning to tap into. His journeys north of the Wall have recently led him to the cave of the Three-eyed Raven and the Children of the Forest.	#9	1	0	0	0	1	0
Hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor. hodor.	#24	1	0	0	0	1	0
Eddard Stark The long-deceased head of House Stark. There are rumors that he may make a reappearance in flashback form for S6.	#57	0	0	0	0	0	0
Qyburn A disgraced former Maester, who was banished from the order for engaging in forbidden experiments. He is recruited by Cersei to assist in various medical facilities, and now serves as Master of Whispers in King's Landing.	#56	0	0	0	0	0	0
White Walker (Night King) The leader of the White Walkers.	#25	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		75	45	9	5	4	12

The night is dark and full of tear'n up dat ass! (kmarkor)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults	Deaths
Tormund Giantsbane A leader of the Wildlings, and formerly a trusted lieutenant and second-in-command to Mance Rayder, the King Beyond the Wall. Although they have met in battle more than once, he bears a grudging respect for Jon Snow.	#27	25	16	0	9	0
Grey Worm The leader of the Unsullied - a highly-trained army of freed slaves who serve Daenerys Targaryen.	#22	23	20	3	0	0
Rickon Stark The youngest of the Stark children. He splits off from Bran and travels with Osha to the Last Hearth, seat of House Umber.	#38	11	0	0	0	11
Melisandre A Red Priestess from Asshai, Melisandre served as a close advisor to Stannis Baratheon until she abandoned his cause at the Battle of Winterfell against the Boltons.	#11	3	0	0	3	0
Olyvar A former prostitute, Olyvar now manages Littlefinger's brothels while he is away in the Eyrie. He plays a key role in the Sparrows' indictment and imprisonment of Loras Tyrell.	#54	0	0	0	0	0
Arya Stark The youngest of the Stark girls. Free-spirited and rebellious, Arya escaped the war-ravaged Westeros and currently resides in Braavos, where she trains under the face-changing assassin Jaqen H'ghar in the House of Black and White.	#6	0	0	0	0	0
High Septon of the Faith (S3) The High Septon is formerly the leader of the Faith of the Seven. He was disgraced after the arrival of the Sparrows, and his position was stripped by Cersei and given to the High Sparrow.	#59	0	0	0	0	0
Loras Tyrell The heir to Highgarden and regarded as one of the most skilled knights in Westeros. He is the brother of Margaery Tyrell. He is currently imprisoned by the High Sparrow for his alleged homosexual affairs with Olyvar, the brothel owner.	#43	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		62	36	3	12	11

Kills

10:23 (+10) Grey Worm :

Grey Worm swiftly slashes the throat of the slave master Razdal mo Eraz, after he offers up the the slaver Yezzzan zo Qaggaz to die as part of the terms of surrender to Daenerys. (Kill of Named Character)

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I don't see this as skill from Grey Worm. 1) The soldiers are fleeing because they're clearly outmatched by dragons and approaching Dothraki, this effectively makes the Masters prisoners of war. 2) Grey Worm is the best of the Unsullied (why he was named Captain) so a throat slash is not a feat for him, it's as mindless as a chef chopping carrots. I think he should split the total points with Dany because he sort of went against her orders by killing 2 instead of 1, but also fulfilled her order at the same time. So she should get points for 1 commanded kill and he should get points for a single kill. Since one is named and one is not, and Dany didn't name someone to kill, give her the unnamed kill and Grey Worm the named kill. -mg.flanigan11

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2016 Jun 22
We didn't even hear Dany order the kill(s), right? -Lem Lemoncake

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2016 Jun 22
We heard by proxy in situ that one was ordered, but that could easily have been a ruse (there could have been orders to kill all but the one singled out by the other two to kill, for example). But either way, they were not restrained or set up on a scaffold or anything; it's pretty clear that Grey Worm's slash was meant to catch them off-guard. Which takes skill. Points therefore for the Worm even if the kills were both ordered explicitly, in my opinion. -dopeghoti

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10:23 (+10) Grey Worm :

Grey Worm slashes the throat of Belicho Paenymion, the slave master from Volantis, after he and Razdal mo Eraz offer up the slave trader Yezzzan zo Qaggaz as a sacrifice for Daenerys' terms of surrender. (Kill of Named Character)

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Yes, if you think they're the same then there's not much of an argument for not counting "Belicho" as a named kill. We should try for some community consensus, since there's unfortunately no specific criteria for when we upgrade these characters to named status.

Hightower was a little more like White Walkers in that he proved to be a worthy "boss fight" adversary, while Forzo and "Belicho" would mostly be based on their dialogue/screentime being prominent enough. Another example could be the drunkard whose face was smashed in by the Mountain - he had a whole scene of just his dialogue, but was counted as an unnamed character.

It's also an option to revert the "named character" status from Forzo and/or Hightower as well. -nyan

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2016 Jun 21 dopeghoti likes this
I honestly didn't know the guys name who we are arguing about. But he was prominent enough to be at the parlay between dany and the masters, and at the parlay with tyrion so i would deem him a prominent character just like hightower, since i also didnt know his name. -cmwalken15

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2016 Jun 21 taylorreneegoodrich, Ser Vincent, goodjujumagic, dibiasio84, 2 others like this
To me he falls under the "boss character" definition. He's not just a random footsoldier, he's the representative from Volantis. Even if he isn't given a name, I think his status and role qualify him to be a "named kill." -alexanderdropkin

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39:07 (+2) Jon Snow:

After stumbling between the charging cavalry forces in a daze, Jon scores his first kill, knocking a Bolton soldier off his horse and then finishing him off on the ground. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

39:10 (+12) Jon Snow:

Jon cuts down six more soldiers on the battlefield as he dodges charging cavalry and arrow barrages streaming from the sky. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

40:17 (+6) Jon Snow:

Jon cuts down 3 more Bolton soldiers in between arrow barrages from Ramsay's archers. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

40:38 (+8) Jon Snow:

Jon cuts down 4 more Bolton soldiers as the mounds of bodies begin to pile up on the battlefield. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

41:43 (+2) Jon Snow:

Jon slits the throat of a Bolton soldier shortly after Davos and Smalljon Umber charge into the fray. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

41:48 (+2) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund runs his sword through a Bolton soldier from behind, saving Jon Snow. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

43:34 (+2) Jon Snow:

Jon stabs through a Bolton soldier as his forces attempt to break through the encircling Bolton army. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

43:51 (+2) Tormund Giantsbane:

As the Wildling fighters charge into the Bolton shield line, Tormund reaches in to pull a soldier out of the formation, stabbing him through the belly. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

43:54 (+4) Jon Snow:

Jon Snow cuts down two more Bolton soldiers. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

44:19 (+2) Jon Snow:

Jon cuts down another Bolton soldier. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

44:33 (+2) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund grabs the shield-holder out of the Bolton formation and yanks him down into the mud, slashing him across the back. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

45:18 (+2) Jon Snow:

Jon uses a spin move to dodge and cut down a Bolton soldier from behind. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

47:39 (+10) Tormund Giantsbane:

After sustaining several headbutts from Smalljon Umber while they are trapped in the moshpit of death, Tormund goes in for the kill, biting into the Smalljon's neck and ripping out his jugular. (Kill of Named Character)

52:21 (+5) Jon Snow:

After the Stark forces breach the Winterfell walls, Ramsay challenges Jon to single combat: "You suggested one-on-one combat, didn't you? I've reconsidered. I think that sounds like a wonderful idea."

Jon blocks all three of Ramsay's longbow shots with a Mormont shield, and finally moves in close enough to Ramsay to pummel him into the ground. (Major Injury of Named Character)

Political Wins

9:12 (+3) Grey Worm :

After Daenerys' awe-inspiring display of burnination, Grey Worm convinces the slave masters' guards to abandon their post. "You men have a choice: fight and die for masters who would never fight and die for you, or go home to your families." They promptly drop their swords and flee. (Convincing Argument)

53:00 (+3) Jon Snow:

After Wun Wun single-handedly breaks down the Winterfell gates, Jon Snow and his forces storm in, killing the remaining garrison of Bolton soldiers and defeating Ramsay Bolton. (Victorious Battle)

53:00 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon retakes Winterfell for House Stark after defeating Ramsay Bolton and the rest of the Bolton army. (Acquire a New Castle/City/Army/Loot)

Unclear who is really in charge at Winterfell right at the moment, especially without Rickon as the only known surviving trueborn son. I suspect we'll get a much clearer idea in E10, when we find out what Sansa's arrangement with Littlefinger is. -nyan

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2016 Jun 21
He isn't a Stark. stark banners were unfurled. These points should go to Sansa. -alicehanners

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2016 Jun 21 Lem Lemoncake likes this
If we're going with consistency, per last episode's scoring of Riverrun, these points are Jon's -alexanderdropkin

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54:23 (+3) Jon Snow:

After being defeated in one-on-one combat, Ramsay is imprisoned in the kennels of Winterfell. (New Follower/Prisoner)

He clearly gives him to Sansa. Again, these should be her points, or they should both get points. -alicehanners

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2016 Jun 21
Given that Sansa has to ask Jon where he is, it seems Ramsay is Jon's prisoner at first. Good question on whether Jon telling her his location is actually transferring prisoner status over to Sansa. Personally I think Jon would be upset with Sansa's actions (in all his previous executions he's been very into the Stark "he who passes the sentence should swing the sword" style). -nyan

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2016 Jun 21 alexanderdropkin likes this
If you watch the behind the scenes, they say Jon stops beating him because he realizes Ramsay isn't his to kill when he looks over at Sansa.

I do not think he'd have a problem with Ramsay's death. -alicehanners

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2016 Jun 23

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

16:29 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon Snow: "We're digging trenches all along our flanks. They won't be able to hit us the way that Stannis hit you, in a double envelopment."
Tormund: ...
Jon: "A pincer move."
Tormund: ...
Jon: "They won't be able to hit us from the sides."
Tormund: "Good." (Funny Line)

21:58 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

to Davos: "I have a jug of sour goat's milk stronger than any of that grape water you southern twats like sucking on." (Witty Insult)

22:23 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Davos: "I can never sleep the night before a battle."
Tormund: "So what do you do all night?"
Davos: "I walk. Think and walk. Think and walk until I'm far enough away from camp that no one can hear me shitting my guts out."
Tormund: *laughs* "... Happy shitting." (Funny Line)

22:52 (+3) Melisandre:

Jon Snow: "Any advice?"
Melisandre: "Don't lose." (Funny Line)

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This shoupdate be split into two differnt posts, or counted twice as these are two differnt lines. -cmwalken15

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2016 Jun 21
Doesn't fall in any category -becharafayad1997

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2016 Jun 21 alexanderdropkin and twalters like this
I think she said "Don't lose," and it was funny in the same way that one line of hers was, before the took off the ruby. I forget the line, but remember it was deadpan and similar humor, and she got points for it.
-alicehanners

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dead pan humor is most certainly funny and in the right catagory. -cmwalken15

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Glasses of Wine Consumed

17:55 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon takes a sip of wine when discussing battle strategy with Sansa after everyone else has left the roundtable (Glass of Wine Consumed)

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Deaths

14:39 (+0) Rickon Stark:

Smalljon Umber tosses out Shaggydog's severed head to prove to Jon and Sansa that they have Rickon as their prisoner. (Dead Body Appearance)

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Just out of curiosity: When Robb's corpse with Grey Wind's head sewn on top of it is shown, would Robb receive double points? :D -Lem Lemoncake

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2016 Jun 22 nyan and dopeghoti like this
I'd say so. One score for Robb, and one score for Grey Wind, who scores for Robb. -dopeghoti

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2016 Jun 22
I'm so glad we changed the death scoring to this from the automatic 1pt. The scoring possibilities for the rewatch are going to be delicious. -nyan

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35:44 (+10) Rickon Stark:

Rickon is killed by an arrow through his chest by Ramsay Bolton, after being given a chance to run to freedom towards the Stark army. (Death)

+1 for Bran Stark, +1 for Rickon Stark, +1 for Hodor, +1 for Three-eyed raven, +1 for Khal Moro

Special

12:35 (+3) Jon Snow:

Ramsay Bolton: "Come, bastard. You don't have the men, you don't have the horses, and you don't have Winterfell." (Special)

13:32 (+3) Jon Snow:

Ramsay Bolton: "I keep hearing stories about you, bastard." (Special)

15:35 (+3) Jon Snow:

Ramsay Bolton: "We'll find out soon enough. In the morning, then, bastard." (Special)

18:49 (+3) Jon Snow:

Sansa Stark: "Rickon is Ned Stark's trueborn son, which makes him a greater threat to Ramsay than you, a bastard, or me, a girl." (Special)

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