Matchup: STARK or get out vs Petyr Baelick my balls for Ep 7

Valar Morghulis... Don't You Mean YOLO?

STARK or get out (lm2ph)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults	Sex
Samwell Tarly A steward of the Night's Watch. He is a close friend to Jon Snow, and one of the few people known to have killed a White Walker.	#26	14	0	0	9	5
Tyene Sand One of Oberyn Martell's bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes.	#39	10	0	0	0	10
Ramsay Bolton The legitimized bastard son of Roose Bolton, now Warden of the North. He is fond of the Bolton tradition of flaying their enemies.	#23	7	4	3	0	0
Jorah Mormont The exiled head of House Mormont. Jorah was previously one of Daenerys' most trusted advisors, but was banished when his time serving as a spy for Robert Baratheon was revealed to her.	#10	7	7	0	0	0
Jaime Lannister The second of the Lannister children, he is Cersei's lover and twin brother, and also the father of her three children. He also serves as Lord Commander of the Kingsguard.	#7	0	0	0	0	0
Denys Mallister A member of the Night's Watch and commander of the Shadow Tower, located the west end of the Wall.	#55	0	0	0	0	0
Brynden Tully (Blackfish) Known as the Blackfish, Brynden is the uncle of Catelyn Stark and Edmure Tully. He escaped the events of the Red Wedding, but his whereabouts are unknown.	#58	0	0	0	0	0
Thoros of Myr A Red Priest from the city of Myr - he is a member of the Brotherhood Without Banners, led by Beric Dondarrion.	#42	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		38	11	3	9	15

Petyr Baelick my balls (kab7va)

Character	Drafted	Total	Insults	Sex	Special
Gilly A daughter of Craster, a wildling who lived in a fortified compound north of the Wall. She and her baby escaped to Castle Black with Samwell Tarly.	#45	5	0	5	0
Sansa Stark The second eldest Stark child. Though currently married to Tyrion Lannister, she has been smuggled into the Vale by Littlefinger, where she poses as his niece, Alayne Stone.	#13	3	0	0	3
Obara Sand One of Prince Oberyn Martell's bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes.	#36	3	3	0	0
Davos Seaworth A former smuggler, Ser Davos is now a knight serving Stannis Baratheon, and one of his most trusted advisors, though he is often at odds with the Red Priestess Melisandre.	#20	0	0	0	0
Beric Dondarrion Lord of Blackhaven, bannermen to House Baratheon. He now leads the Brotherhood Without Banners, an outlaw fighting group in the Riverlands.	#52	0	0	0	0
Balon Greyjoy The head of House Greyjoy and Lord of the Iron Islands. He is the father of Theon, who was given up as a ward to the Starks after Balon's failed rebellion against the Iron Throne.	#61	0	0	0	0
Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger) Formerly the Master of Coin, Littlefinger has been sent to the Vale to serve as Warden of the East.	#4	0	0	0	0
Yara Greyjoy Theon's older sister, Yara was raised on the Iron Islands as a true Ironborn. She is a fearsome fighter and commands a longship of her own.	#29	0	0	0	0
Totals		11	3	5	3

Kills

8:12 (+2) Ramsay Bolton:

Sansa emerges from her bed, showing the bruises that have been inflicted on her by Ramsay. (Minor Injury of Named Character)

15:42 (+2) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay has the old woman who attempted to help Sansa flayed and killed. "Tough old bird. Everyone talks when I start peeling them. But this one, her heart gave out before I even got to her face." (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Isn't that an act of torture? -chadhazellief

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2015 May 26
It would be, but I'm not sure about counting it as it happened off-screen. The kills were counted based on the prior precedent that dead bodies + explanation on how they were killed is good enough to count as a kill. But should off-screen torture count for Ramsay's special? "+1 point for every scene featuring an act of torture."

Submit it and see what others think? -nyan

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2015 May 26 chadhazellief likes this
Yeah, I think there's a reasonable debate on both sides of this. I think if Ramsay simply *said* he killed these people, it wouldn't count. However in this case, we're shown all three flayed bodies in the scene preceding this one. So the precedent would be that we are shown bodies + details of the kill (enough to confirm the killer).

You said that week 3 and he got like 16 points -chadhazellief

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2015 May 27
That precedent still holds for Kills. I'm wondering if it's something that should be extended to the Specials category as well. Some things to run through the thought experiment:

* If Sansa says that she "cried all night", and looks sad (but not crying), would she get a special point?
* If Brienne yells at Podrick "I can't believe you burned down the tent last night!", but we never see the burning (only the charred tent), does it count?

Hmm, as I think of it more... we give Sex points for the scenes where they're just in bed afterwards, too. I think you have a good case that the torture should count. Go ahead and submit them in! -nyan

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2015 May 27

49:30 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah elbows Yezzan zo Qaggaz in the nose as he emerges into the fighting pit. (Minor Injury of Named Character)

49:34 (+5) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah enters the fighting pits and knocks out the remaining five fighters in hopes of winning Daenerys' favor. (Major Injury of Unnamed Character)

Political Wins

10:03 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay discovers Sansa's attempt to call for help after he encounters Reek at the top of the broken tower, prepared to light a signal candle. (Politics - uncategorized)

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

23:05 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

to Brant and Derek, who are assaulting Gilly: "I killed a White Walker. I killed a Thenn. I'll take my chances with you." (Threat)

24:11 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

Sam boasts about his command of the situation after he'd been beaten senseless by Brant and Derek of the Night's Watch.
Gilly: "I know they would've killed you if Ghost hadn't come."
Sam: "No no no, they were tiring out. I had them in the palm of my hand" (Funny Line)

submitted by wpearsal (approved!)

25:31 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

during his first sexual experience with Gilly: "Oh... oh... oh my..." (Funny Line)

submitted by wpearsal (approved!)

40:27 (+3) Obara Sand:

Bronn: "It's against my code to hurt a woman.
Obara: "It's amazing how many men we beat seem to have this code." (Witty Insult)

Acts of Intercourse

26:24 (+5) Samwell Tarly:

Samwell breaks his vows and lays with Gilly after he get injured. "Oh... oh... oh my." (Act of Intercourse)

26:24 (+5) Gilly:

Gilly sleeps with Samwell Tarly after she tends to his wounds. (Act of Intercourse)

41:14 (+10) Tyene Sand:

Tyene strips down to toy with Bronn as he suffers from the effects of her poisoned dagger. (Non-sexual Nude Scene)

Special

16:32 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Sansa cries as Ramsay Bolton presents her with the flayed body of the old Winterfell woman who promised to help her. (Special)

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