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Valar Morghulis... Don't You Mean YOLO?

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2-8, 44 roto pts (#4)
Z-Score: 0.322 (percentile: 62.61%)
Weeks at #1: 0
Categories won:
Best Week: Episode 5: Kill the Boy (+6 roto points)
Team MVP: Ramsay Bolton (picked #23, 90 points, 37.04% of team total)
Longest winstreak: W-1

Roster Stats

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults	Wine	Sex	Special
Ramsay Bolton The legitimized bastard son of Roose Bolton, now Warden of the North. He is fond of the Bolton tradition of flaying their enemies.	#23	90	22	12	15	25	10	6
Jorah Mormont The exiled head of House Mormont. Jorah was previously one of Daenerys' most trusted advisors, but was banished when his time serving as a spy for Robert Baratheon was revealed to her.	#10	56	36	6	6	5	0	3
Samwell Tarly A steward of the Night's Watch. He is a close friend to Jon Snow, and one of the few people known to have killed a White Walker.	#26	49	0	9	18	5	5	12
Jaime Lannister The second of the Lannister children, he is Cersei's lover and twin brother, and also the father of her three children. He also serves as Lord Commander of the Kingsguard.	#7	33	2	3	6	10	0	12
Tyene Sand One of Oberyn Martell's bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes.	#39	15	2	0	3	0	10	0
Thoros of Myr A Red Priest from the city of Myr - he is a member of the Brotherhood Without Banners, led by Beric Dondarrion.	#42	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Brynden Tully (Blackfish) Known as the Blackfish, Brynden is the uncle of Catelyn Stark and Edmure Tully. He escaped the events of the Red Wedding, but his whereabouts are unknown.	#58	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Denys Mallister A member of the Night's Watch and commander of the Shadow Tower, located the west end of the Wall.	#55	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		243	62	30	48	45	25	33

Roster

charId	Character	Special
19	Jaime Lannister The second of the Lannister children, he is Cersei's lover and twin brother, and also the father of her three children. He also serves as Lord Commander of the Kingsguard.	* +1 point for awkward waves with his metal hand * +1 point when he uses his metal hand in a combat situation * +1 point when someone (excl. Cersei) references incest with Cersei or her childrens' bastardy directly to him * 2x multiplier for sex acts involving incest (first cousin or closer)
32	Jorah Mormont The exiled head of House Mormont. Jorah was previously one of Daenerys' most trusted advisors, but was banished when his time serving as a spy for Robert Baratheon was revealed to her.	* +1 point when he explains to someone he has Greyscale * +1 point in each scene that Jorah serves as an encyclopedia for Essos culture. * +1 point each time Daenerys convinces him to go on a mission / do something that doesn't involve being anywhere around her (friendzone)
87	Ramsay Bolton The legitimized bastard son of Roose Bolton, now Warden of the North. He is fond of the Bolton tradition of flaying their enemies.	+1 for each food item he punctures or slices +1 point for every scene featuring an act of torture.
40	Samwell Tarly A steward of the Night's Watch. He is a close friend to Jon Snow, and one of the few people known to have killed a White Walker.	+1 point for reading books, mentioning he "read that in a book", or writing raven letters.
190	Tyene Sand One of Oberyn Martell's bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes.	+1 for invoking the name of Oberyn Martell
102	Thoros of Myr A Red Priest from the city of Myr - he is a member of the Brotherhood Without Banners, led by Beric Dondarrion.	+1 point every time he revives someone. +1 when shown igniting his flaming sword
193	Denys Mallister A member of the Night's Watch and commander of the Shadow Tower, located the west end of the Wall.
94	Brynden Tully (Blackfish) Known as the Blackfish, Brynden is the uncle of Catelyn Stark and Edmure Tully. He escaped the events of the Red Wedding, but his whereabouts are unknown.

Kills

Episode 3: The High Sparrow

13:31 (+10) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay tells his father about the flaying of Lord Cerwyn. His body, flayed of all skin, is hung from the walls of Moat Cailin.
Ramsay: "Lord Cerwyn refused to pay. He said the Warden of the North will always be a Stark, and he'd be damned if he kissed a traitor's boot."
Roose Bolton: "You left him no choice."
Ramsay: "I flayed him living, along with his wife and brother. I made his son watch ... The new Lord Cerwyn paid his taxes." (Kill of Named Character)

13:47 (+4) Ramsay Bolton:

The wife and brother of Lady Cerwyn were killed by Ramsay Bolton - their flayed bodies were hung on display from the walls of Moat Cailin. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Seriously contesting all of Ramsay's kill points. Does it count if it happens off-screen, before the character's first scene in the episode? If so, don't we need to count implied kills whenever a character is in a battle? This is setting a weird precedent, I think. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 28 nyan and megharr36 like this
Yeah, I think there's a reasonable debate on both sides of this. I think if Ramsay simply *said* he killed these people, it wouldn't count. However in this case, we're shown all three flayed bodies in the scene preceding this one. So the precedent would be that we are shown bodies + details of the kill (enough to confirm the killer).

Some previous examples of this:
S1E2: The Hound credited with a kill after he returns with Mycah's body, though we never see the actual kill.
S1E7: Robert credited with the boar kill after he tells the story about it - we never see the actual kill (though I believe the boar is later shown?).
S2E7: Theon credited with 2 kills after we are shown the two charred bodies of the orphan boys in Winterfell - we never see the actual killing.
S2E8: Jaqen credited with 4 kills of Lannister soldiers at Harrenhal. We never see the actual killing.
S2E8: Dagmer credited with 2 kills after he tells Theon about the farmer and wife that he also killed along with the orphan boys. We actually don't even see bodies in this case.
S2E9: Ser Mandon Moore catches 3 deserters, and Cersei orders all three of them to be executed (and Ilyn Payne heads off to do so). In hindsight this is strong candidate to be rescinded, as there's no actual confirmation.
S4E10: Daenerys is credited for Drogon's kill of the Meereenese villager's daughter. We are shown the charred bones of the girl, but are never shown the actual kill.

I think there's a fair argument to take a hard line and say only explicit on-screen kills count, but that would invalidate most of the above examples. Other lines could be drawn at "must be shown the body" and/or "must get explicit details to determine who did the kill." I'm open to hearing opinions on where the kill cutoff is, but either way it sounds like we'll definitely get a new precedent established for the rulebook, which is always great. -nyan

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Episode 4: The Sons of the Harpy

2:10 (+1) Jorah Mormont:

In the middle of the night, Jorah knocks out a fisherman with a haymaker and steals his boat. (Major Injury of Unnamed Character)

35:33 (+2) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime catches the sabre of the Dornish rider in his metal hand, allowing him to retrieve his sword and stab him. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Episode 5: Kill the Boy

52:09 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah retrieves his sword and cuts down one of the Stone Men that leaps onto his boat. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

52:14 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah stabs through one of the Stone Men with his sword. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Episode 6: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

34:09 (+2) Tyene Sand:

Tyene manages to slash Bronn on the arm with her dagger, just before Areo Hotah and the Dornish guards arrive. (Minor Injury of Named Character)

Episode 7: The Gift

8:12 (+2) Ramsay Bolton:

Sansa emerges from her bed, showing the bruises that have been inflicted on her by Ramsay. (Minor Injury of Named Character)

15:42 (+2) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay has the old woman who attempted to help Sansa flayed and killed. "Tough old bird. Everyone talks when I start peeling them. But this one, her heart gave out before I even got to her face." (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Isn't that an act of torture? -chadhazellief

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2015 May 26
It would be, but I'm not sure about counting it as it happened off-screen. The kills were counted based on the prior precedent that dead bodies + explanation on how they were killed is good enough to count as a kill. But should off-screen torture count for Ramsay's special? "+1 point for every scene featuring an act of torture."

Submit it and see what others think? -nyan

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2015 May 26 chadhazellief likes this
Yeah, I think there's a reasonable debate on both sides of this. I think if Ramsay simply *said* he killed these people, it wouldn't count. However in this case, we're shown all three flayed bodies in the scene preceding this one. So the precedent would be that we are shown bodies + details of the kill (enough to confirm the killer).

You said that week 3 and he got like 16 points -chadhazellief

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2015 May 27
That precedent still holds for Kills. I'm wondering if it's something that should be extended to the Specials category as well. Some things to run through the thought experiment:

* If Sansa says that she "cried all night", and looks sad (but not crying), would she get a special point?
* If Brienne yells at Podrick "I can't believe you burned down the tent last night!", but we never see the burning (only the charred tent), does it count?

Hmm, as I think of it more... we give Sex points for the scenes where they're just in bed afterwards, too. I think you have a good case that the torture should count. Go ahead and submit them in! -nyan

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2015 May 27

49:30 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah elbows Yezzan zo Qaggaz in the nose as he emerges into the fighting pit. (Minor Injury of Named Character)

49:34 (+5) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah enters the fighting pits and knocks out the remaining five fighters in hopes of winning Daenerys' favor. (Major Injury of Unnamed Character)

Episode 9: The Dance of Dragons

41:22 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah plunges a dagger into the heart of the long-axe-wielding pit fighter. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

43:39 (+10) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah does a somersault and then stabs his sword through the stomach of the pit fighter, named as the "Meereenese Champion" earlier. (Kill of Named Character)

44:04 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah throws a spear into the gallery, killing a Son of the Harpy who had been sneaking up behind Daenerys. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

45:13 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah kills a Son of the Harpy with his dagger as he makes his way over to help protect Daenerys. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

46:02 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah stabs a Son of the Harpy who attempts to ambush Daenerys in the fighting pit escape tunnel. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

47:08 (+4) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah cuts down two enemies as Daenerys' group becomes encircled by the Sons of the Harpy mob. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

49:13 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah stabs through a Son of the Harpy in the fighting pit. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

16:12 (+2) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay stabs through the remaining Baratheon soldier as he mops up the wounded soldiers on the battlefield near Winterfell. "Looks like we're done here." (Kill of Unnamed Character)

16:43 (+2) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay stabs the back of a crawling Baratheon soldier as he mops up the battlefield outside Winterfell.
Baratheon soldier: "I surrender! I surrender!"
Ramsay: "And I accept your surrender." (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Political Wins

Episode 2: The House of Black and White

19:20 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime coerces Bronn into his service, marrying off the noblewoman he is betrothed to, Lollys Stokeworth, to another knight, stripping Bronn of his opportunity for a noble title and lands. "Because you're going to come with me and help me with something important. And when we return... I'm going to give you a much better girl, and a much better castle." (Politics - uncategorized)

40:56 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

Sam stumps for Jon Snow as a candidate for Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, convincing many in the room. "He may be young, but he's the commander we turned to when the night was darkest." (Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 3: The High Sparrow

59:50 (+3) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah captures Tyrion in Volantis. "I'm taking you to the Queen." (Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 4: The Sons of the Harpy

18:03 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

Samwell convinces Jon to sign a letter requesting recruits from Roose Bolton. "We swore to be the Watchers on the Wall. We can't watch the Wall with 50 men. And we can't get more men without help from the Warden of the North." (Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 6: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

23:08 (+3) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah convinces the slave trader Malko to take him to the fighting pits of Meereen instead of the slave city of Volantis.
Jorah: "I killed a Dothraki Bloodrider in single combat."
Malko: "Liar."
Jorah: "It's no lie. His name was Qotho. He was Bloodrider to Khal Drogo. Take me to Slaver's Bay, put a sword in my hand, I'll prove my worth." (Politics - uncategorized)

50:05 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay Bolton and Sansa Stark are wed.
Theon: "Sansa, of the House Stark comes here to be wed. A woman grown, trueborn and noble. She comes to beg the blessings of the Gods. Who comes to claim her?
Ramsay: "Ramsay, of House Bolton." (Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 7: The Gift

10:03 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay discovers Sansa's attempt to call for help after he encounters Reek at the top of the broken tower, prepared to light a signal candle. (Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 9: The Dance of Dragons

3:01 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay and his band of "twenty men" sneak into Stannis Baratheon's camp in the middle of the night and set fire to the Baratheon food and war supplies.
Ser Davos: "They were in and out before anyone spotted them. Burnt our food stores to the ground, all our siege weapons destroyed."
(Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

7:35 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

Sam convinces Jon Snow to send him and Gilly to Oldtown so that Sam can train to be the next Maester for the Night's Watch. "If Gilly stays here, then she'll die. And the baby that she named after me will die. And I'll end up dying, too, trying to protect them. Which means that the last thing that I'll see in this world will be the look in her eyes when I fail them." (Politics - uncategorized)

16:12 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay Bolton handily defeats the broken and dispirited forces of Stannis Baratheon in the battle outside Winterfell. "Looks like we're done here." (Politics - uncategorized)

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

Episode 1: The Wars to Come

20:54 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

"How many Brothers can say that they've killed a White Walker *and* a Thenn? I might be the first in history!" (Funny Line)

This isn't an insult and I don't find it funny. Out of context, it's not funny, and in context, it shows Sam's laziness, where Gilly is in fairly constant danger, surrounded by men who hate her, but Sam doesn't want to train because he had a few lucky moments beyond the wall.

Is this category purely "made the scorekeeper laugh"? Gilly certainly didn't find it funny and it wasn't delivered as though it was humor. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 19
I thought it was clearly meant to be humor. I think it was a "funny", although I didn't find it laugh out loud funny either. Also I don't think running a "is it funny out of context" test is very useful for judging something's funni'ness. Generally isn't comedy mostly about context? -moonbaseu92

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2015 Apr 20
I meant that it was LESS fun in context, but wasn't even funny out of context.

I don't know how you can think it's humor. It's Sam trying to puff up for Gilly as an excuse for why he isn't training. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 20
It might be seen as delivered as humor if Sam was using it to jokingly poke fun at how useless he is otherwise (hey, remember those two times I ended up doing something right??), but you can tell he's genuinely proud of himself and thinks he can protect Gilly because of this.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Sam, but this moment was sad and I felt bad for Gilly. Not humor at all. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 20
The "context" for humor is that of the viewer - many jokes won't be funny at all to any characters in-universe, but the humor is meant for those *watching* the show. In this case, Sam isn't telling a joke and Gilly isn't perceiving it as a joke. But the viewer obviously sees through Samwell's weak attempt at a brag for what it is, and Samwell's vanity is the joke here. I agree that it's not the greatest laugh-out-loud moment in the show, but enough people wrote in suggesting this one that we added it. -nyan

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2015 Apr 21

Episode 2: The House of Black and White

40:42 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

"A wildling girl, a baby, and Lord Janos. I found him there (in the Castle Black pantry) after the battle was over, in a puddle of his own making." (Witty Insult)

Episode 4: The Sons of the Harpy

36:26 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

after asking Bronn to bury the bodies of the Dornish riders: "I can't dig very well with one hand. Not at all, really." (Funny Line)

39:49 (+3) Jorah Mormont:

Tyrion: "I can't sleep without wine."
Jorah: "Then stay awake." (Funny Line)

submitted by wpearsal (approved!)

Episode 5: Kill the Boy

18:47 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Myranda: "I saw you staring at her (Sansa)."
Ramsay: "I'm going to marry her. That will involve looking at her from time to time." (Funny Line)

19:16 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Miranda: "Do you think she's pretty?"
Ramsay: "Of course I do. I'm not blind. " (Funny Line)

submitted by moonbaseu92 (approved!)

29:16 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

about Theon: "He's not Ironborn anymore. Not Theon Greyjoy anymore. He's a new man... a new person, anyway." (Witty Insult)

32:19 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

to Roose Bolton: "How can you be sure... that she's pregnant? I mean... [spacing gesture indicate Fat Walda's size] ...how can you tell?" (Witty Insult)

Episode 6: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

52:30 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay reminds Sansa to remove her clothes: "Do I need to ask a second time? I hate asking a second time." (Threat)

Episode 7: The Gift

23:05 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

to Brant and Derek, who are assaulting Gilly: "I killed a White Walker. I killed a Thenn. I'll take my chances with you." (Threat)

24:11 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

Sam boasts about his command of the situation after he'd been beaten senseless by Brant and Derek of the Night's Watch.
Gilly: "I know they would've killed you if Ghost hadn't come."
Sam: "No no no, they were tiring out. I had them in the palm of my hand" (Funny Line)

submitted by wpearsal (approved!)

25:31 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

during his first sexual experience with Gilly: "Oh... oh... oh my..." (Funny Line)

submitted by wpearsal (approved!)

Episode 9: The Dance of Dragons

11:30 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime criticizes Myrcella's revealing attire in Doran Martell's court:
Jaime: "What a lovely dress."
Myrcella: "You don't like it?"
Jaime: "You must be cold." (Witty Insult)

Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

7:46 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

Jon Snow: "You know that the Citadel will make you swear off women, too."
Samwell: "Oh, they'll bloody try." (Funny Line)

26:32 (+3) Tyene Sand:

to Bronn: "You want a good girl, but you need the bad pussy." (Funny Line)

33:05 (+3) Jorah Mormont:

Tyrion: "Fine, fine. I suppose he can join us. Just as long as he promises not to kill me in my sleep."
Jorah: "If I ever kill you, your eyes will be wide open." (Threat)

Glasses of Wine Consumed

Episode 3: The High Sparrow

55:55 (+5) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah drinks away his sorrows as he can't even get within the friendzone of the Daenerys cosplayer in Volantis. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Episode 4: The Sons of the Harpy

3:49 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime takes a swig while below the deck of the merchant vessel that is smuggling him to Dorne. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Episode 5: Kill the Boy

25:47 (+5) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay drinks while talking with Reek. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

28:09 (+5) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay drinks after proposing a toast to Sansa Stark. "My lady, we are all a family, we Northerners. Our blood ties go back thousands of years. So I'd like to drink to our wedding. May our happiness spread from Moat Cailin to the Last Hearth." (Glass of Wine Consumed)

32:07 (+5) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay drinks again from his refilled cup, after Roose Bolton announces that Fat Walda Frey is pregnant. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

33:13 (+5) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay drinks while discussing the Bolton line of succession with his father Roose Bolton. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

33:38 (+5) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay refills his cup as Roose Bolton tells him the story of her mother. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Episode 9: The Dance of Dragons

13:00 (+5) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime drinks after Doran Martell proposes a toast. "Let us drink to Tommen, the First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms." (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

8:23 (+5) Samwell Tarly:

Jon and Sam toast to Sam's journey to Oldtown to become a Maester. "To your return." (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Acts of Intercourse

Episode 5: Kill the Boy

20:49 (+5) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay takes Myranda from behind after their lover's quarrel over Ramsay's marriage to Sansa Stark. (Act of Intercourse)

Episode 6: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

53:44 (+5) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay rapes Sansa Stark on their wedding night. "Reek... I told you to watch. You've known Sansa since she was a girl. Now watch her become a woman." (Act of Intercourse)

Episode 7: The Gift

26:24 (+5) Samwell Tarly:

Samwell breaks his vows and lays with Gilly after he get injured. "Oh... oh... oh my." (Act of Intercourse)

41:14 (+10) Tyene Sand:

Tyene strips down to toy with Bronn as he suffers from the effects of her poisoned dagger. (Non-sexual Nude Scene)

Special

Episode 2: The House of Black and White

15:31 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Cersei talks to Jaime about Myrcella. "Then don't call her your daughter. You've never been a father to her." (Special)

Cersei and Jamie both mention their bastard children twice?
-mmccor4140

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2015 Apr 23 wpearsal likes this
It's a little fuzzy - the bastardy mentions were grouped into the same conversation, but I can see a case for counting the lines as separate mentions. Other thoughts? -nyan

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2015 Apr 23
Is there an historical precedent for it? I feel like Sam made multiple, similar jokes about Janos Slynt too, but wasn't sure if they should all count? -wpearsal

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2015 Apr 23

33:16 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

Sam mentions a factoid from his book on the history of Lord Commanders of the Night's Watch. "Did you know that the youngest Lord Commander in history, Osric Stark, was elected at the age of 10?" (Special)

Episode 4: The Sons of the Harpy

4:10 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime: "We're not kidnapping their princess. We're rescuing my niece, bringing her back to her family."
Bronn: "Your niece?" (Special)

Should this be an insult/funny line for Bronn? -lsherman17

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2015 May 5
Shouldn't Jamie get Special points for this? '1 point when someone references incest with Cersei or her childrens' bastardy directly to him' -moonbaseu92

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2015 May 5
Shouldn't Jamie get Special points for this? '1 point when someone references incest with Cersei or her childrens' bastardy directly to him' -moonbaseu92

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2015 May 5
@moonbaseu92 slightly confused - this is Jaime getting the Special points for this line -nyan

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2015 May 5
Why are Jaime's kills being counted as 2 points? -vitalik

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2015 May 5
Either I wasn't paying attention or this way before it was counting as Jamie's Special -moonbaseu92

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2015 May 5

17:20 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

Samwell prepares a set of raven letters to various Lords requesting recruits for the Night's Watch. (Special)

Episode 5: Kill the Boy

6:55 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

Samwell reads a raven letter to Maester Aemon, reporting on Daenery's current struggles as ruler of Meereen. (Special)

35:13 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

Sam reads in the library of Castle Black while talking to Gilly. (Special)

50:12 (+3) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah finishes Tyrion's recital of a poem describing the Doom of Valyria. "... a city of a thousand years, and all that men had learned; The Doom consumed it all alike, and neither of them turned." (Special)

Episode 6: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

52:10 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay makes Reek stay in the bedchamber to watch him rape Sansa. "Oh, no, no, no. You stay here, Reek. You watch." (Special)

53:03 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay tortures Sansa Stark on their wedding night by raping her with Reek (Theon Greyjoy) watching. "Reek... I told you to watch. You've known Sansa since she was a girl. Not watch her become a woman." (Special)

Ramsay gets +1 for every scene of torture, why are these both +3? It was just 1 scene. -alicehanners

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2015 May 26
NM, I see that they're all +1/+3. -alicehanners

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2015 May 26
Yeah, the wording there is a little confusing as the +1's are from before category "weights" were introduced. Internally they're recorded as +1 Special Point, x3 Special Multiplier (but it was an x1 or x2 multiplier in older leagues). After this season I'll change all the "+1" text to eliminate confusion, and also try to give a better breakdown of how the points summed up (lots of confusion about how they sex points are counted up, for example). -nyan

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2015 May 26

Episode 9: The Dance of Dragons

27:07 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Ellaria: "You love her very much, don't you?"
Jaime: "Of course, she's my niece."
Ellaria: "I wasn't talking about her." (Special)

Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

29:07 (+3) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime is confronted with his incest by his own daughter, Myrcella: "I know. About you and mother. I think a part of me always knew. And I'm glad. I'm glad that you're my father." (Special)

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