Suckers of Pentos

4-6, 41 roto pts (#5)
Z-Score: 0.052 (percentile: 52.09%)
Weeks at #1: 1
Categories won: Deaths (55)
Best Week: Episode 5: Kill the Boy (+11 roto points)
Team MVP: Ramsay Bolton (picked #11, 95 points, 37.85% of team total)
Longest winstreak: W-3

Roster Stats

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults	Wine	Sex	Deaths	Special
Ramsay Bolton The legitimized bastard son of Roose Bolton, now Warden of the North. He is fond of the Bolton tradition of flaying their enemies.	#11	95	22	12	15	25	15	0	6
Barristan Selmy The former Lord Commander of the Kingsguard of Robert and Joffrey Baratheon. After being dismissed by King Joffrey, he joins Daenerys to serve as her advisor and Queensguard.	#27	48	30	3	0	0	0	15	0
Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger) Formerly the Master of Coin, Littlefinger has been sent to the Vale to serve as Warden of the East.	#6	37	0	9	12	0	10	0	6
Myranda A servant of Ramsay Bolton.	#22	35	2	0	3	0	20	10	0
White Rat An Unsullied soldier who serves Daenerys Targaryen.	#59	19	0	0	0	0	0	19	0
Shireen Baratheon Stannis Baratheon's daughter and only child. She is afflicted with greyscale, a disease which has left her face scarred and cracked. She is close friends with Ser Davos Seaworth.	#54	17	0	0	3	0	0	11	3
Illyrio Mopatis Magister of Pentos, one of the free cities of Essos. He hosted the exiled Viserys and Daenerys Targaryen.	#107	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Thoros of Myr A Red Priest from the city of Myr - he is a member of the Brotherhood Without Banners, led by Beric Dondarrion.	#43	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Rickon Stark The youngest of the Stark children. He splits off from Bran and travels with Osha to the Last Hearth, seat of House Umber.	#75	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Anguy A skilled archer from the Stormlands - he is a member of the Brotherhood Without Banners, led by Beric Dondarrion.	#102	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Hot Pie An orphan from King's Landing. He works at the Inn at the Crossroads as a baker.	#91	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Clea Volantene courtesan who meets Tyrion Lannister.	#38	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Tycho Nestoris A representative of the Iron Bank of Braavos, a powerful bank who holds a large sum of debt from the Iron Throne.	#70	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Gendry A bastard son of Robert Baratheon, although this fact is not widely known (even to Gendry himself). After being captured by Melisandre, he is freed by Ser Davos and escaped Dragonstone by rowboat. His whereabouts are currently unknown.	#86	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		251	54	24	33	25	45	55	15

Roster

charId	Character	Special
79	Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger) Formerly the Master of Coin, Littlefinger has been sent to the Vale to serve as Warden of the East.	+1 point in the intercourse category for sex events that occur in his brothels 2x multiplier for betrayal events +1 for every kiss he gives to Sansa
87	Ramsay Bolton The legitimized bastard son of Roose Bolton, now Warden of the North. He is fond of the Bolton tradition of flaying their enemies.	+1 for each food item he punctures or slices +1 point for every scene featuring an act of torture.
131	Myranda A servant of Ramsay Bolton.
35	Barristan Selmy The former Lord Commander of the Kingsguard of Robert and Joffrey Baratheon. After being dismissed by King Joffrey, he joins Daenerys to serve as her advisor and Queensguard.	+1 point when he makes a suggestion to Daenerys and she ignores it.
199	Clea Volantene courtesan who meets Tyrion Lannister.
102	Thoros of Myr A Red Priest from the city of Myr - he is a member of the Brotherhood Without Banners, led by Beric Dondarrion.	+1 point every time he revives someone. +1 when shown igniting his flaming sword
54	Shireen Baratheon Stannis Baratheon's daughter and only child. She is afflicted with greyscale, a disease which has left her face scarred and cracked. She is close friends with Ser Davos Seaworth.	+1 point when she tutors someone on their reading/writing [new] +1 point for making Stannis-style pendantic corrections like her dad [new] +1 point every time she corrects Davos' spelling or grammar [removed under new scoring]
203	White Rat An Unsullied soldier who serves Daenerys Targaryen.
95	Tycho Nestoris A representative of the Iron Bank of Braavos, a powerful bank who holds a large sum of debt from the Iron Throne.
8	Rickon Stark The youngest of the Stark children. He splits off from Bran and travels with Osha to the Last Hearth, seat of House Umber.	+1 point for every scene where he has a speaking line Shaggydog's actions contribute to his points.
80	Gendry A bastard son of Robert Baratheon, although this fact is not widely known (even to Gendry himself). After being captured by Melisandre, he is freed by Ser Davos and escaped Dragonstone by rowboat. His whereabouts are currently unknown.	+1 point for each act of blacksmithing.
104	Hot Pie An orphan from King's Landing. He works at the Inn at the Crossroads as a baker.	+1 point for every baked good or other food he prepares
103	Anguy A skilled archer from the Stormlands - he is a member of the Brotherhood Without Banners, led by Beric Dondarrion.
161	Illyrio Mopatis Magister of Pentos, one of the free cities of Essos. He hosted the exiled Viserys and Daenerys Targaryen.

Kills

Episode 3: The High Sparrow

13:31 (+10) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay tells his father about the flaying of Lord Cerwyn. His body, flayed of all skin, is hung from the walls of Moat Cailin.
Ramsay: "Lord Cerwyn refused to pay. He said the Warden of the North will always be a Stark, and he'd be damned if he kissed a traitor's boot."
Roose Bolton: "You left him no choice."
Ramsay: "I flayed him living, along with his wife and brother. I made his son watch ... The new Lord Cerwyn paid his taxes." (Kill of Named Character)

13:47 (+4) Ramsay Bolton:

The wife and brother of Lady Cerwyn were killed by Ramsay Bolton - their flayed bodies were hung on display from the walls of Moat Cailin. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Seriously contesting all of Ramsay's kill points. Does it count if it happens off-screen, before the character's first scene in the episode? If so, don't we need to count implied kills whenever a character is in a battle? This is setting a weird precedent, I think. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 28 nyan and megharr36 like this
Yeah, I think there's a reasonable debate on both sides of this. I think if Ramsay simply *said* he killed these people, it wouldn't count. However in this case, we're shown all three flayed bodies in the scene preceding this one. So the precedent would be that we are shown bodies + details of the kill (enough to confirm the killer).

Some previous examples of this:
S1E2: The Hound credited with a kill after he returns with Mycah's body, though we never see the actual kill.
S1E7: Robert credited with the boar kill after he tells the story about it - we never see the actual kill (though I believe the boar is later shown?).
S2E7: Theon credited with 2 kills after we are shown the two charred bodies of the orphan boys in Winterfell - we never see the actual killing.
S2E8: Jaqen credited with 4 kills of Lannister soldiers at Harrenhal. We never see the actual killing.
S2E8: Dagmer credited with 2 kills after he tells Theon about the farmer and wife that he also killed along with the orphan boys. We actually don't even see bodies in this case.
S2E9: Ser Mandon Moore catches 3 deserters, and Cersei orders all three of them to be executed (and Ilyn Payne heads off to do so). In hindsight this is strong candidate to be rescinded, as there's no actual confirmation.
S4E10: Daenerys is credited for Drogon's kill of the Meereenese villager's daughter. We are shown the charred bones of the girl, but are never shown the actual kill.

I think there's a fair argument to take a hard line and say only explicit on-screen kills count, but that would invalidate most of the above examples. Other lines could be drawn at "must be shown the body" and/or "must get explicit details to determine who did the kill." I'm open to hearing opinions on where the kill cutoff is, but either way it sounds like we'll definitely get a new precedent established for the rulebook, which is always great. -nyan

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2015 Apr 28 moonbaseu92, tim.sheehan, Reaper, alicehanners like this

Episode 4: The Sons of the Harpy

47:48 (+30) Barristan Selmy:

Barristan arrives to the scene of the Unsullied ambush. He cuts down 15 of the Sons of the Harpy in an attempt to save Grey Worm, but is eventually cut down by the mob.
1. Slashed across the back as Barristan arrives
2. Slashed across the stomach as the mob engages
3. Slashed across the side after his first strike is parried
4. Held in place by Barristan to receive a stab from a fellow Son of the Harpy
5. Slashed across the chest
6. Sliced through the stomach
7. Sliced across the back
8. Stabbed through the stomach
9. Beheaded from behind
10. Slashed through with an uppercut swing
11. Stabbed through the stomach
12. Slashes across the stomach
13. Slashes after stabbing Barristan's leg
14. Stabbed through while Barristan is kneeling on the ground
15. Stabbed simultaneously while another stabs Barristan through the stomach (mostly obscured behind the surviving fighter) (Kill of Unnamed Character)

There's a lot of speculation on this - Barristan is definitely injured but may still survive. Death points (if any) will be counted in the episode where death is confirmed. -nyan

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2015 May 5
I think #4 may be somewhat debatable - assists don't count, and Barristan simply held the Harpy in place while he was stabbed by the other. Arguably though, Barristan knew the stab was coming, and he positioned the Harpy in the way to receive it. I went with that interpretation and credited Barristan with the kill. -nyan

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2015 May 5 alicehanners likes this
In the preview for episode 5, there's a shot of Dany standing over Barristan's body and I'm 100% sure he's dead -cfitzgerald

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2015 May 7
See event/1525 for more discussion.
While the previews may give a hint, I don't think they're authoritative - e.g. if there's a scene showing Barristan's funeral, it may come from later in the episode and Barristan actually gets an opening scene with a few last words to Daenerys before dying. Also since some viewers don't watch them, it would introduce some spoilers to include information from the previews in the scoring. -nyan

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Episode 5: Kill the Boy

20:33 (+2) Myranda:

Myranda bites the lip of Ramsay bloody while kissing, promising that she'll never bore him. (Minor Injury of Named Character)

Episode 7: The Gift

8:12 (+2) Ramsay Bolton:

Sansa emerges from her bed, showing the bruises that have been inflicted on her by Ramsay. (Minor Injury of Named Character)

15:42 (+2) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay has the old woman who attempted to help Sansa flayed and killed. "Tough old bird. Everyone talks when I start peeling them. But this one, her heart gave out before I even got to her face." (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Isn't that an act of torture? -chadhazellief

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2015 May 26
It would be, but I'm not sure about counting it as it happened off-screen. The kills were counted based on the prior precedent that dead bodies + explanation on how they were killed is good enough to count as a kill. But should off-screen torture count for Ramsay's special? "+1 point for every scene featuring an act of torture."

Submit it and see what others think? -nyan

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2015 May 26 chadhazellief likes this
Yeah, I think there's a reasonable debate on both sides of this. I think if Ramsay simply *said* he killed these people, it wouldn't count. However in this case, we're shown all three flayed bodies in the scene preceding this one. So the precedent would be that we are shown bodies + details of the kill (enough to confirm the killer).

You said that week 3 and he got like 16 points -chadhazellief

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2015 May 27
That precedent still holds for Kills. I'm wondering if it's something that should be extended to the Specials category as well. Some things to run through the thought experiment:

* If Sansa says that she "cried all night", and looks sad (but not crying), would she get a special point?
* If Brienne yells at Podrick "I can't believe you burned down the tent last night!", but we never see the burning (only the charred tent), does it count?

Hmm, as I think of it more... we give Sex points for the scenes where they're just in bed afterwards, too. I think you have a good case that the torture should count. Go ahead and submit them in! -nyan

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Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

16:12 (+2) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay stabs through the remaining Baratheon soldier as he mops up the wounded soldiers on the battlefield near Winterfell. "Looks like we're done here." (Kill of Unnamed Character)

16:43 (+2) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay stabs the back of a crawling Baratheon soldier as he mops up the battlefield outside Winterfell.
Baratheon soldier: "I surrender! I surrender!"
Ramsay: "And I accept your surrender." (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Political Wins

Episode 2: The House of Black and White

25:41 (+3) Barristan Selmy:

Barristan convinces Daenerys to give the Son of the Harpy a fair trial instead of executing him immediately. "Your Grace... I served in [Mad King Aerys'] Kingsguard. I was at his side from the first. Your enemies did not lie." (Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 3: The High Sparrow

16:42 (+3) Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger):

Petyr convinces Sansa Stark to go through with his marriage proposal to Ramsay Bolton.
"You've been running all your life. Terrible things happened to your family and you weep. You sit alone in a dark room, mourning their fates. You've been a bystander to tragedy from the day they executed your father. Stop being a bystander, do you hear me? Stop running. There's no justice in the world. Not unless we make it. You loved your family. Avenge them." (Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 6: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

26:30 (+6) Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger):

Littlefinger crosses Roose Bolton, revealing Sansa Stark's present location in Winterfell and the Boltons' marriage plans to Cersei: "...I have found Sansa Stark. Alive and well and home again living at Winterfell... They tell me Roose Bolton plans to marry her to his son Ramsay, a bastard recently legitimized by King Tommen." (Politics - uncategorized)

50:05 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay Bolton and Sansa Stark are wed.
Theon: "Sansa, of the House Stark comes here to be wed. A woman grown, trueborn and noble. She comes to beg the blessings of the Gods. Who comes to claim her?
Ramsay: "Ramsay, of House Bolton." (Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 7: The Gift

10:03 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay discovers Sansa's attempt to call for help after he encounters Reek at the top of the broken tower, prepared to light a signal candle. (Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 9: The Dance of Dragons

3:01 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay and his band of "twenty men" sneak into Stannis Baratheon's camp in the middle of the night and set fire to the Baratheon food and war supplies.
Ser Davos: "They were in and out before anyone spotted them. Burnt our food stores to the ground, all our siege weapons destroyed."
(Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

16:12 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay Bolton handily defeats the broken and dispirited forces of Stannis Baratheon in the battle outside Winterfell. "Looks like we're done here." (Politics - uncategorized)

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

Episode 2: The House of Black and White

8:46 (+3) Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger):

to Brienne, remarking on her new armor: "We've met, with Renly Baratheon... What did he say about you? He said, 'Your loyalty came free of charge.' Someone appears to have paid quite a bit for it since then." (Witty Insult)

10:16 (+3) Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger):

to Brienne: "This woman swore to protect Renly, she failed. She swore to protect your mother, she failed. Why would I want somebody with your history of failure guarding Lady Sansa?" (Witty Insult)

submitted by moonbaseu92 (approved!)

Episode 4: The Sons of the Harpy

22:28 (+3) Shireen Baratheon:

Shireen: "I like it (here at Castle Black). I thought I'd be left at home. I know mother didn't want to bring me."
Stannis: "Why'd you say that?"
Shireen: "She told me, 'I don't want to bring you.'" (Funny Line)

Episode 5: Kill the Boy

18:47 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Myranda: "I saw you staring at her (Sansa)."
Ramsay: "I'm going to marry her. That will involve looking at her from time to time." (Funny Line)

19:16 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Miranda: "Do you think she's pretty?"
Ramsay: "Of course I do. I'm not blind. " (Funny Line)

submitted by moonbaseu92 (approved!)

29:16 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

about Theon: "He's not Ironborn anymore. Not Theon Greyjoy anymore. He's a new man... a new person, anyway." (Witty Insult)

32:19 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

to Roose Bolton: "How can you be sure... that she's pregnant? I mean... [spacing gesture indicate Fat Walda's size] ...how can you tell?" (Witty Insult)

Episode 6: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

24:41 (+3) Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger):

to Lancel Lannister: "We both peddle fantasies, Brother Lancel. Mine just happen to be entertaining." (Witty Insult)

25:16 (+3) Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger):

Cersei: "I'm the insulted party, Lord Baelish. Ser Loras was promised to me, instead he chose the company of boys."
Petyr: "One's choice of companion is a most curious thing." (Witty Insult)

52:30 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay reminds Sansa to remove her clothes: "Do I need to ask a second time? I hate asking a second time." (Threat)

Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

18:02 (+3) Myranda:

to Sansa Stark: "You can't die... Ramsay needs you. Though I suppose he doesn't need all of you. Just the parts he'll use to make his heir, until you've given him a boy or two and he's finished using them. Then he's got incredible plans for those parts." (Threat)

Glasses of Wine Consumed

Episode 5: Kill the Boy

25:47 (+5) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay drinks while talking with Reek. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

28:09 (+5) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay drinks after proposing a toast to Sansa Stark. "My lady, we are all a family, we Northerners. Our blood ties go back thousands of years. So I'd like to drink to our wedding. May our happiness spread from Moat Cailin to the Last Hearth." (Glass of Wine Consumed)

32:07 (+5) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay drinks again from his refilled cup, after Roose Bolton announces that Fat Walda Frey is pregnant. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

33:13 (+5) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay drinks while discussing the Bolton line of succession with his father Roose Bolton. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

33:38 (+5) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay refills his cup as Roose Bolton tells him the story of her mother. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Acts of Intercourse

Episode 4: The Sons of the Harpy

10:03 (+5) Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger):

The Faith Militant invades Lord Petyr Baelish's establishment, interrupting a customer and prostitute. (Act of Intercourse)

10:16 (+5) Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger):

The Faith Militant invades Lord Petyr Baelish's establishment, interrupting a threesome with a customer and two prostitutes. (Act of Intercourse)

Episode 5: Kill the Boy

20:49 (+10) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay takes Myranda from behind after their lover's quarrel over Ramsay's marriage to Sansa Stark. (Act of Intercourse)

20:49 (+20) Myranda:

Myranda is taken from behind by Ramsay after their lover's quarrel over Ramsay's marriage to Sansa Stark. (Act of Intercourse)

Episode 6: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

53:44 (+5) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay rapes Sansa Stark on their wedding night. "Reek... I told you to watch. You've known Sansa since she was a girl. Now watch her become a woman." (Act of Intercourse)

Deaths

Episode 1: The Wars to Come

17:43 (+10) White Rat:

White Rat has his throat slit by one of the Sons of the Harpy, while in bed with a prostitute. (Death)

Episode 2: The House of Black and White

+1 for White Rat

Episode 3: The High Sparrow

+1 for White Rat

Episode 4: The Sons of the Harpy

+1 for White Rat

Episode 5: Kill the Boy

2:14 (+10) Barristan Selmy:

Barristan's body lies in Daenery's throneroom after he was cut down by the Sons of the Harpy. (Death)

+1 for White Rat

Episode 6: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

+1 for Barristan Selmy, +1 for White Rat

Episode 7: The Gift

+1 for Barristan Selmy, +1 for White Rat

Episode 8: Hardhome

+1 for Barristan Selmy, +1 for White Rat

Episode 9: The Dance of Dragons

33:57 (+10) Shireen Baratheon:

Shireen is burned at the stake by the red priestess Melisandre, after her father Stannis agrees to sacrifice her for the supposed magic of her king's blood. (Death)

+1 for Barristan Selmy, +1 for White Rat

Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

18:44 (+10) Myranda:

After threatening Sansa Stark with her bow, Myranda is thrown off the walls of Winterfell by Theon. She plunges to her death onto the ground below. (Death)

+1 for Barristan Selmy, +1 for Shireen Baratheon, +1 for White Rat

Special

Episode 2: The House of Black and White

33:12 (+3) Shireen Baratheon:

Shireen helps Gilly learn her letters, starting with the letter S. (Special)

Episode 3: The High Sparrow

17:32 (+3) Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger):

Littlefinger gives Sansa a kiss on the forehead after convincing her to marry Ramsay Bolton. (Special)

Episode 4: The Sons of the Harpy

29:47 (+3) Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger):

Littlefinger kisses Sansa in the crypts of Winterfell, as they say their goodbyes before Littlefinger's trip back to King's Landing. (Special)

Episode 6: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

52:10 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay makes Reek stay in the bedchamber to watch him rape Sansa. "Oh, no, no, no. You stay here, Reek. You watch." (Special)

53:03 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay tortures Sansa Stark on their wedding night by raping her with Reek (Theon Greyjoy) watching. "Reek... I told you to watch. You've known Sansa since she was a girl. Not watch her become a woman." (Special)

Ramsay gets +1 for every scene of torture, why are these both +3? It was just 1 scene. -alicehanners

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2015 May 26
NM, I see that they're all +1/+3. -alicehanners

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2015 May 26
Yeah, the wording there is a little confusing as the +1's are from before category "weights" were introduced. Internally they're recorded as +1 Special Point, x3 Special Multiplier (but it was an x1 or x2 multiplier in older leagues). After this season I'll change all the "+1" text to eliminate confusion, and also try to give a better breakdown of how the points summed up (lots of confusion about how they sex points are counted up, for example). -nyan

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2015 May 26

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