Matchup: winter is coming vs Valyria Hodor for Ep 1

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winter is coming (kas113)

Character	Drafted	Total	Insults	Wine	Sex	Special
Tyrion Lannister The third of the Lannister children. After losing his trial for the murder of King Joffrey, he has escaped prison and fled King's Landing.	#2	39	9	30	0	0
Daario Naharis Leader of the Second Sons, a sellsword company who broke their contract and now sides with Daenerys.	#26	13	0	5	5	3
Varys Formerly the Master of Whisperers in King's Landing, Varys controls a vast network of spies. He flees King's Landing after aiding in Tyrion Lannister's escape.	#15	9	6	0	0	3
Missandei A freed slave from Astapor. She works for Daenerys as an advisor. She is fluent in many languages and often serves as a translator.	#31	3	0	0	0	3
Brienne of Tarth A skilled fighter and heir to House Tarth. A sworn sword to the late Catelyn Stark, she continues her mission to ensure the safety of the Stark girls.	#7	3	3	0	0	0
High Sparrow Leader of the Sparrows, a religious movement within the Faith of the Seven.	#55	0	0	0	0	0
Myranda A servant of Ramsay Bolton.	#50	0	0	0	0	0
Areo Hotah The personal bodyguard for Doran Martell.	#58	0	0	0	0	0
Melisandre A Red Priestess from Asshai, she is a close advisor to Stannis.	#10	0	0	0	0	0
Margaery Tyrell The daughter of Mace Tyrell, head of House Tyrell. Betrothed to King Tommen, she is the queen-to-be and active in the politics of King's Landing.	#18	0	0	0	0	0
Gregor Clegane (The Mountain) A knight and the Head of House Clegane, bannermen to the Lannisters. He was called back to King's Landing by Cersei to fight as the Crown's champion in Tyrion's trial.	#63	0	0	0	0	0
Bronn A former sellsword, who has risen through the ranks of nobility thanks to his fighting skills and work for the Lannisters. He is arranged to marry Lollys Stokeworth, and eventually inherit a lordship and castle of his own.	#23	0	0	0	0	0
High Septon of the Faith (S3) The High Septon is leader of the Faith of the Seven.	#42	0	0	0	0	0
Grey Worm The leader of the Unsullied - a highly-trained army of slaves freed by Daenerys.	#34	0	0	0	0	0
Jaqen H'ghar A member of the Faceless Men of Braavos, and a skilled assassin. After helping Arya escape from Harrenhal, his whereabouts are unknown.	#47	0	0	0	0	0
Obara Sand One of Prince Oberyn Martell's bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes.	#39	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		67	18	35	5	9

Valyria Hodor (autouser)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Special
Jon Snow The bastard son of Ned Stark, and a member of the Night's Watch. He helped lead the defense of Castle Black against the Wildling siege.	#4	13	10	3
Janos Slynt A member of the Night's Watch. Slynt formerly served as Commander of the City Watch, before he was removed from the post and exiled by Tyrion Lannister.	#45	0	0	0
Ellaria Sand The former paramour of Prince Oberyn. She is also the mother of several of his bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes.	#28	0	0	0
Bowen Marsh The First Steward of the Night's Watch.	#61	0	0	0
Doran Martell The head of House Martell of Dorne, and elder brother of Prince Oberyn Martell.	#21	0	0	0
Meera Reed The eldest child of Howland Reed, bannerman to the Starks. She and Bran have arrived at the cave of the Three-eyed Raven.	#37	0	0	0
Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger) Formerly the Master of Coin, Littlefinger has been sent to the Vale to serve as Warden of the East.	#5	0	0	0
Qyburn A disgraced former Maester, who was banished from the order for engaging in forbidden experiments. He is recruited by Cersei to assist in various medical facilities.	#44	0	0	0
Hizdahr zo Loraq A son of one of the Meereenese slave masters - he appears in Daenerys' court to ask for his fathers body, after Daenerys crucifies all of the slavers in Meereen.	#53	0	0	0
Tommen Baratheon The new King of the Seven Kingdoms.	#29	0	0	0
Maester Aemon The Maester of the Night's Watch. In a previous life he was born Aemon Targaryen, a great-uncle of Daenerys.	#36	0	0	0
Walder Frey The elderly Lord of the Twins and now Lord of Riverrun after his betrayal of Robb Stark and the Northern forces.	#20	0	0	0
Leaf A member of the Children of the Forest. She leads Bran and his companions to cave of the Three-eyed Raven.	#52	0	0	0
Ramsay Bolton The legitimized bastard son of Roose Bolton, now Warden of the North. He is fond of the Bolton tradition of flaying their enemies.	#13	0	0	0
Stannis Baratheon The eldest brother of King Robert, he is the rightful heir to the Irone Throne.	#12	0	0	0
Denys Mallister A member of the Night's Watch and commander of the Shadow Tower, located the west end of the Wall.	#60	0	0	0
Totals		13	10	3

Kills

52:44 (+10) Jon Snow:

Jon Snow gives Mance a mercy kill, shooting an arrow through his heart before he is consumed by a burning pyre. (Kill of Named Character)

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To explain more about the philosophy, one of the important parts of the scorekeeping is that it can objectively follow definitions, without requiring judgment calls on the part of some scorekeeper (which can be subjective). In this case, I agree with both of you that Stannis probably "deserves" some credit - without his actions, Mance wouldn't have been put in a position to be killed. But "put in a position to be killed" is a little murky to make a rule for - how do you draw the line? Is it really Melisandre that puts him in that position because she starts the fire burning?

Given that, I think it's better to stick to the scoring definitions, because there's no subjectivity to them. And sometimes it results in a "deserving" character losing points, but that's fantasy sometimes - just like a football RB who hauls his team to the goal line, only for the backup to sub in and score the 1yd touchdown. -nyan

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I agree with Nyan. Riddle me this: If someone (King A) commands his executioner (Brute) to kill the shopgirl (Lass), and Lass flees to Other Country where she is run over by a cart and dies, does King A get the point? Everyone's actions contribute. The point is, Mance was killed by Jon Snow. Jon Snow was NOT commanded to kill him by Stannis. Therefore, it's not a commanded kill. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 19
That's different because Mance didn't escape from the fire and run away while Jon shot at him to keep him from escaping. He was in the process of dying. Even if Jon hadn't intervened, he still would've been dead. I know Stannis won't get points for that, and I don't care, I'm just saying that I disagree with your example. -kas113

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Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

13:10 (+3) Varys:

Tyrion: "Do you know what it's like to stuff your shit through one of those airholes?"
Varys: "No. I only know what it's like to pick up your shit and throw it overboard." (Funny Line)

14:19 (+3) Tyrion Lannister:

"Are you a lord if you kill your father? I don't imagine they revoke your nobility for killing a whore, it must happen all the time." (Funny Line)

27:18 (+3) Brienne of Tarth:

to Podrick: "I don't care. I'm not your mother." (Witty Insult)

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35:00 (+3) Tyrion Lannister:

Varys: "There are faster ways to kill yourself."
Tyrion: "Not for a coward." (Funny Line)

36:08 (+3) Varys:

Varys: "You have your father's instincts for politics. And you have compassion."
Tyrion: "Compassion? Yes... I killed my lover with my bare hands. I shot my own father with a crossbow."
Varys: "I never said you were perfect." (Funny Line)

37:31 (+3) Tyrion Lannister:

Varys: "You have a choice, my friend. You can stay here at Illyrio's palace and drink yourself to death or you can ride with me to Meereen, meet Daenerys Targaryen and decide if the world is worth fighting for."
Tyrion: "Can I drink myself to death on the road to Meereen?" (Funny Line)

Glasses of Wine Consumed

13:59 (+15) Tyrion Lannister:

Tyrion downs 3 cups of wine after getting out of that fucking crate, before puking over all the rugs in Ilyrio's palace. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

15:04 (+5) Tyrion Lannister:

After vomiting his previous three drinks onto the floor of Ilyrio's palace, Tyrion refills and goes for another. Boot 'n rally! (Glass of Wine Consumed)

35:01 (+10) Tyrion Lannister:

Tyrion drinks away his misery with two glasses of wine on the balcony of Ilyrio's palace. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

40:14 (+5) Daario Naharis :

Daario drinks in bed with Daenerys. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Acts of Intercourse

39:31 (+5) Daario Naharis :

Daario pours wine after a session with Daenerys, as they discuss the re-opening of the fighting pits. (Act of Intercourse)

Special

19:10 (+3) Missandei:

Missandei addresses Grey Worm by his name in Valyrian: "Torgo Nudho." (Special)

23:07 (+3) Jon Snow:

Melisandre announces Jon Snow to Stannis: "Your Grace. The bastard of Winterfell." (Special)

34:51 (+3) Varys:

Tyrion: "Eunuch. The Spider. The Master of Whisperers." (Special)

39:02 (+3) Daario Naharis :

While Daenerys holds court with Hizdahr zo Loraq, Daario pulls out his dagger and suggestively strokes its naked lady hilt while Daenerys eyes him. (Special)

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