Matchup: I GOT a pun vs Winter is Here Bitch for Ep 4

I GOT a pun (Devin)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Wine	Sex	Thrones	Deaths	Special	Feels
Jon Snow	#2	55	12	3	15	0	2	0	3	20
Tormund Giantsbane	#11	52	3	9	10	5	0	0	12	13
Sandor Clegane (The Hound)	#14	32	0	0	15	0	0	0	9	8
Gendry	#26	13	3	0	5	0	0	0	0	5
Beric Dondarrion	#23	2	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0
Top-Knot White Walkers One of the Night King's lieutenants, this is the White Walker who grabs the ice spear and hands it to the Night Walker during the dragon battle at the frozen lake.	#35	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Full-bearded White Walkers This White Walker has a full beard and long hair. He is one of the Night King's Lieutenants.	#38	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Jaqen H'ghar	#47	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		154	18	12	45	5	2	2	24	46

Winter is Here Bitch (gavin)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Thrones	Deaths	Special	Feels
Euron Greyjoy	#15	12	11	1	0	0	0
Varys	#27	8	3	2	0	3	0
Arya Stark	#10	8	3	0	0	0	5
Cersei Lannister	#3	8	8	0	0	0	0
Samwell Tarly	#22	8	0	0	0	3	5
Eddison Tollett	#34	2	0	0	2	0	0
Rhaegar Targaryen	#46	0	0	0	0	0	0
Bald White Walkers This White Walker is bald and has a round beard, and stands by the Night King as one of his lieutenants. He was present at the dragon battle over the frozen lake.	#39	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		46	25	3	2	6	10

Political Wins

6:17 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon quotes the Night's Watch oath to end his eulogy to the dead at Winterfell. "They were the shields that guarded the realms of men. And we shall never see their like again." (House Words)

10:52 (+3) Gendry:

Gendry receives high marks on his peer reviews after the Battle of Winterfell, and he is legitimized as a non-bastard and named Lord Baratheon of Storm's End.

Daenerys Targaryen: "I think you should be Lord of Storm's End.
Gendry: "That can't be, I'm a bastard."
Daenerys: "No, you are Lord Gendry Baratheon of Storm's End. The lawful son of Robert Baratheon. Because that is what I have made you." (New Title)

33:53 (+3) Jon Snow:

Tyrion and Jon convince Daenerys to take a more cautioned approach to the war and lay siege to King's Landing instead of destroying it.

Daenerys: "No matter how many lords turn against her, as long as she sits on the Iron Throne, she can call herself Queen of the Seven Kingdoms. We need the capital."
Tyrion: "I watched the people of King's Landing rebel against their king when they were hungry, and that was before winter began. Give them the opportunity and they will cast Cersei aside."
Jon: "We'll surround the city. If the Iron Fleet tries to ferry in more food, the dragons will destroy them. If the Lannisters and the Golden Company attack, we'll defeat them in the field."
Tyrion: "Once the people see that Cersei is our only enemy, her reign is over." (Convincing Argument)

34:55 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon overrules Sansa's objections and pledges the weakened Northern forces to fight for Daenerys immediately.

to Sansa: "The Northern forces will honor their promises and their allegiance to the Queen of the Seven Kingdoms."
turning to Daenerys: "What you command, we will obey." (Executive Decision)

38:17 (+3) Arya Stark:

Arya and Sansa learn of Jon Snow's true heritage as a secret Targaryen and heir to the Iron Throne. (Secret Discovery)

38:17 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon breaks his promise to Daenerys, secretly telling Arya and Sansa about his heritage as a Targaryen and heir to the Iron Throne as long as they pinky swore not to tell anyone. (Act of Betrayal)

He doesn’t promise her anything -alicehanners

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Quite the opposite in fact; he was quite clear that he felt his family had a right to know. -dopeghoti

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2019 May 8
Since he makes them swear not to tell anyone, doesn't it imply it's something he's doing behind Daenerys' back? -nyan

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I think him making them promise was more so other people didn’t find out, rather than so Daenerys didn’t find out they knew, nah? -conor_finlay

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He didn’t promise Daenerys he wouldn’t tell, she just made it clear that there might be consequences if he did. -conor_finlay

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50:36 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon gives charge of Ghost to Tormund, to take him back to his natural habitat north of the Wall. (New Follower/Prisoner)

51:22 (+3) Varys:

Varys learns of Jon's parentage through the game of secret discovery telephone.

Varys: "How many others know?"
Tyrion: "Including us? Eight."
Varys: "Well, then it's not a secret anymore. It's information." (Secret Discovery)

Given the quote, I think the buck stops here with respect to awarding this further down the chain. -nyan

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2019 May 6 sperlingjason, mlopez, alicehanners, dopeghoti like this
Surely if 8 people knowing makes it information, the 8th person to know (Varys) discovers info and not a secret? Varys’ quot afterwards kinda voids these points nah? -conor_finlay

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2019 May 10 nyan likes this
quote* -conor_finlay

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2019 May 10
Also, Varys’ is actually the 9th person to know. -conor_finlay

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53:57 (+5) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron and the Iron Fleet ambush Daenerys Targaryen's fleet on their way to Dragonstone, shooting Rhaegal out of the sky from their ship-mounted Scorpions. (Kill of Named Character (Orchestrated))

This was originally scored as a full Kill for Euron but changed to an Orchestrated Kill since there wasn't any on-screen evidence for whether Euron fired any of the killing bolts. https://fantasora.com/event/4581

Note that getting points for what your army does is not generally a score (aside from the Battle Victory), and this is a new category without a lot of precedents. In general it feels like Euron is deserving of this since Euron plans out the ambush and Rhaegal is caught unawares, e.g. is a sitting duck. We wouldn't want to count this category for say, every character killed by the Night King in the Battle of Winterfell. -nyan

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2019 May 7 imonaship12 likes this
If that is the case shouldn't Qyburn also get points for creating the scorpion 2.0 -Zaibin and Aadil

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Is this a substantial revamp of the original Scorpion? Or did they just make a lot more of them? -nyan

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It was earlier shown that Scorpion 1.0 was useless and did no real appreciable damage; this seems to either be a significant redesign, or two _extraordinarily_ lucky shots that just happened to hit the spots that were wounded in the Battle of Winterfell by the Ice Dragon. -dopeghoti

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55:45 (+3) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron's Iron Fleet executes a devastating attack on Daenerys' armada, shooting down one of her dragons and sinking most of her ships just outside of Dragonstone. (Victorious Battle)

57:23 (+3) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron has captured Missandei and delivered her to King's Landing following the surprise attack on Daenerys' fleet. (New Follower/Prisoner)

57:52 (+3) Cersei Lannister:

As a result of the Iron Fleet attacks on Daenerys' ships, Cersei captures Missandei. (New Follower/Prisoner)

75:52 (+5) Cersei Lannister:

Cersei carries through on her threat as the Mountain beheads the prisoner Missandei in front of Daenerys and her advisors during the attempted parley. (Kill of Named Character (Orchestrated))

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

14:47 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund demands Jon finish off his horn of wine in front of a celebratory crowd at the Feast of Winterfell.

Tormund: "We have to celebrate our victory."
Jon: "Vomiting is not celebrating."
Tormund: "...yes, it is." (Funny Line)

18:54 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

"Now, which one of you cowards shit in my pants?" (Funny Line)

47:26 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon: "Rhaegal needs to heal. He doesn't need me weighing him down."
Tormund: "You weigh as much as two fleas fucking." (Witty Insult)

49:36 (+3) Jon Snow:

Gilly: "If it's a boy, we want to name him Jon."
Jon: "I hope it's a girl." (Funny Line)

Glasses of Wine Consumed

9:00 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon drinks from his cup at the head table as he notices Daenerys' spaced out look. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

9:18 (+5) Gendry:

Gendry takes a drink before asking the Hound if he's seen Arya. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

12:31 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund glugs straight from the pitcher during the Feast of Winterfell. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

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12:31 (+5) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor takes a sip in the blurry background as Davos and Tyrion talk about Melisandre. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

15:02 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon drinks as they the Feast of Winterfell toast to Daenerys the Dragon Queen and Arya Stark, the Hero of Winterfell (Glass of Wine Consumed)

15:02 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund drinks from his horn as the crowd toasts both Daenerys and Arya. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

16:07 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon drinks in the background as Tormund regales the crowd with the legends of Jon Snow. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

20:24 (+5) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Clegane takes another bitter drink as growls at a Northern girl who attempts to hit on him. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

21:38 (+5) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor drinks from his refill as he talks bluntly with Sansa about her experiences. "You've changed, little bird." (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Acts of Intercourse

19:48 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

After being spurned by Brienne, Tormund rebounds with a Northern girl who fancies him at the Feast of Winterfell.

Northern girl: " You can touch me. I'm not afraid of Wildlings."
Tormund: "Maybe you should be."
(Act of Intercourse)

A Game of Thrones

8:54 (+1) Jon Snow:

Jon awkwardly sits at center of the head table between Sansa and Daenerys during the celebratory feast at Winterfell. (Basic Seat)

11:41 (+1) Jon Snow:

Jon sits back down after raising a toast and giving his cup of wine to Gendry (Basic Seat)

14:53 (+1) Varys:

Varys sits in a chair at the edge of the head table as Tormund and the hall give a toast. "To Daenerys, the Dragon Queen!" (Basic Seat)

51:33 (+1) Varys:

Varys sits down with Tyrion in the cabin below deck, discussing the secret of Jon's parentage. (Basic Seat)

53:50 (+1) Euron Greyjoy:

Euron sits in the gunner's seat of the Scorpion aboard his ship, as the Iron Fleet chases down Daenerys' dragons. (Basic Seat)

Deaths

7:07 (+2) Beric Dondarrion:

Beric's body lies atop a funeral pyre after the Battle of Winterfell. (Dead Body Appearance)

7:13 (+2) Eddison Tollett:

Edd's body lies atop a funeral pyre after the Battle of Winterfell as Samwell Tarly says his goodbye. (Dead Body Appearance)

Special

9:20 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor scoops at a shepherd's pie in his bowl during the Feast of Winterfell. (Special)

9:21 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor scoops at a shepherd's pie in his bowl during the Feast of Winterfell, in a strong foreshadowing to the Cleganebowl that was Promised. (Special)

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19:05 (+12) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund eagerly stares at Brienne as she excuses herself to take a piss. His 3-second gaze is unfortunately interrupted by Jaime. (Special)

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Also would “icy fucks” count as a witty insult? Or does it have to be said directly to the target of the insult? -conor_finlay

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2019 May 7
Doesn't have to be said at anyone, and for Tormund these kind of half-bleed into funny lines. I did add the "shit in my pants" line right after "icy fucks", here: https://fantasora.com/event/4628

I could go either way on this icy fucks line. -nyan

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2019 May 8
I feel like he definitely does more than 3 points worth of staring here? He stares straight into her eyes for 5/6 seconds as he walks over to her. He’s speaking to everyone but his eyes are fixed right on hers and he also happens to be talking about “looking into blue eyes”. His second stare is about 5/6 seconds aswell, from the end of his laugh to the moment Jaime steps in front of him and his eyes move to him. -conor_finlay

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2019 May 8
I know he doesn’t get points for just looking at Brienne but these two stares are definitely more in line with the stares he was scored for in episode 2. -conor_finlay

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2019 May 8
That was my bad, I meant to mark this as 3 seconds and 9 points. This is the portion that you can see Tormund's eyes during the stare in the screenshot, between Brienne's "pardon me for a moment" and Jaime interrupting. The 5s is about right if you include the beginning where we just see the back of his head. Don't feel too strongly about the cutoff here, call it even at 4s? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's subjective but I feel that before this with the "icy fucks" he is mostly jovial and talking to her like a person instead of objectifying her? -nyan

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2019 May 8
Yeah that’s fair in regard to the “icy fucks” part. I’d still argue that he should get the whole 5/6 seconds for the second stars as we can still see he’s looking at her even though we can’t see his eyes the whole time. Ultimately it’s up to you though. -conor_finlay

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37:13 (+3) Jon Snow:

Arya: "You're my brother. Not my half-brother or my bastard brother. My brother." (Special)

42:47 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor chews on a piece of jerky as he rides solo out of Winterfell. (Special)

49:21 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

Samwell explains the birds and the bees to Jon.

Samwell: "There's only so many books a person can read, so we-"
Gilly: "I'm sure he knows how it happens, Sam." (Special)

61:32 (+3) Varys:

Varys: "He (Jon Snow) is a man, which makes him more appealing to the lords of Westeros, whose support we are going to need."
Tyrion: "Joffrey was a man. I don't think a cock is a true qualification, as I'm sure you'd agree." (Special)

The Feels

5:25 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon gives a eulogy to the fallen as the living pay their respects after the Battle of Winterfell.

"We're here to say goodbye to our brothers and sisters. To our fathers and mothers. To our friends.
Our fellow men and women who set aside their differences to fight together and die together so that others might live.
Everyone in this world owes them a debt that can never be repaid.
It is our duty and our honor to keep them alive in memory for those who come after us, and those who come after them, for as long as men draw breath.
They were the shields that guarded the realms of men.
And we shall never see their like again." (Sad Feels)

11:36 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor continues to sit and eat throughout all the various celebratory toasts for Gendry, Arya, and other heroes of the Battle of Winterfell. (Ridiculously Funny Moment)

16:44 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund continually splashes wine EVERYWHERE as he regales the crowd with the legend of Jon Snow. (Ridiculously Funny Moment)

19:48 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund's heart is broken as he regales his story to Clegane. "And after all that, this fucker comes north and takes her from me. Just takes her, like that. I mean it, Clegane. My heart is broken." (Sad Feels)

22:07 (+5) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor Clegane and Sansa talk about their long journeys and roads not taken.

Sandor: " You've changed, Little Bird. None of it would have happened if you'd left King's Landing with me. No Littlefinger, no Ramsay none of it."
Sansa: "Without Littlefinger, and Ramsay, and the rest... I would have stayed a Little Bird all my life." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

23:32 (+5) Gendry:

Gendry proposes to Arya.

"I don't know how to be Lord of anything. I hardly know how to use a fork. All I know is that you're beautiful, and I love you, and none of it will be worth anything if you're not with me. So be with me. Be my wife. Be the Lady of Storm's End." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

37:18 (+5) Arya Stark:

Arya and Sansa stage a family intervention with Jon Snow to bring him back to the Stark side.

Jon: "I've never been a Stark."
Sansa: "You are. You're just as much Ned Stark's child as any of us."
Arya: "You're my brother. Not my half-brother or my bastard brother. My brother." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

37:18 (+5) Jon Snow:

48:32 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon and Tormund say their final farewells, as Tormund leaves to take the Free Folk home beyond the Wall. (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

48:32 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon and Tormund say their final farewells, as Tormund leaves to take the Free Folk home beyond the Wall.

Tormund: "It isn't home. We need room to wander. I'll take them back through Castle Black as soon as the winter storms pass. Back where we belong." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

49:52 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon and Sam say their goodbyes at Winterfell.

Sam: "You're the best friend I ever had."
Jon: "You too, Sam." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

49:52 (+5) Samwell Tarly:

Jon and Sam say their goodbyes at Winterfell.

Sam: "You're the best friend I ever had."
Jon: "You too, Sam." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

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