Matchup: Stark Holshlad vs What is dead may never die for Ep 1

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Stark Holshlad (mark_alex_holland)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults	Deaths	Special
Doran Martell The head of House Martell of Dorne, and elder brother of Prince Oberyn Martell.	#32	109	0	0	0	10	99
Areo Hotah The personal bodyguard for Doran Martell.	#49	10	0	0	0	10	0
Tyrion Lannister The third, stunted dwarf of the Lannister children - a fugitive from Westeros after losing his trial for the murder of King Joffrey, he has escaped and found service as an advisor to Daenerys Targaryen.	#1	6	0	0	3	0	3
Nymeria Sand One of Oberyn Martell's bastards, known as Sand Snakes. She wields a whip.	#48	6	0	3	3	0	0
Theon Greyjoy Heir to the Iron Islands, and formerly a ward of House Stark. Theon has been broken through torture by the hands of Ramsay Bolton, but has escaped Winterfell along with Sansa Stark during the chaos of the Battle of Winterfell.	#16	2	2	0	0	0	0
Meera Reed The eldest child of Howland Reed, bannerman to the Starks. She and Bran have arrived at the cave of the Three-eyed Raven.	#64	0	0	0	0	0	0
Grey Worm The leader of the Unsullied - a highly-trained army of freed slaves who serve Daenerys Targaryen.	#33	0	0	0	0	0	0
Jon Snow The bastard son of Ned Stark, and the current Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. After guiding the Wildlings to safety in the aftermath of the Battle of Castle Black and the attack on Hardhome, he was betrayed by a mutiny of the Night's Watch, and left for dead in the snow.	#17	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		133	2	3	6	20	102

What is dead may never die (brianmizrahi90)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Sex	Special
Melisandre A Red Priestess from Asshai, Melisandre served as a close advisor to Stannis Baratheon until she abandoned his cause at the Battle of Winterfell against the Boltons.	#13	20	0	0	20	0
Tyene Sand The youngest of Oberyn Martell's bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes. She uses daggers and poisons as her weapons.	#45	15	12	3	0	0
Cersei Lannister Queen Regent of the Seven Kingdoms and mother to King Tommen. Afflicted by a rare water allergy.	#4	3	0	0	0	3
High Septon of the Faith (S3) The High Septon is formerly the leader of the Faith of the Seven. He was disgraced after the arrival of the Sparrows, and his position was stripped by Cersei and given to the High Sparrow.	#61	0	0	0	0	0
Margaery Tyrell The wife of King Tommen Baratheon and Queen of the Seven Kingdoms. Her increasing influence over the young king have put at her odds against his mother, Cersei Lannister.	#20	0	0	0	0	0
Lancel Lannister A cousin to the Lannister children. In a past life he was a stuttering servant to King Robert Baratheon and secret consort to his cousin Queen Cersei Lannister. Lancel now serves as a leading member of the Sparrows, a dangerously militant religious group whose power over King's Landing is growing.	#29	0	0	0	0	0
Yara Greyjoy Theon's older sister, Yara was raised on the Iron Islands as a true Ironborn. She is a fearsome fighter and commands a longship of her own.	#52	0	0	0	0	0
Walder Frey The elderly Lord of the Twins and now Lord of Riverrun after his betrayal of Robb Stark and the Northern forces.	#36	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		38	12	3	20	3

Kills

17:13 (+2) Theon Greyjoy:

Theon stabs a Bolton soldier through the back while he is battling Podrick Payne. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

26:48 (+10) Tyene Sand:

Tyene pulls out a dagger to stab Areo Hotah in the back, as Ellaria Martell begins her overthrow of the Martells. (Kill of Named Character)

Okay, how the heck are you going to introduce a bodyguard with a badass longaxe like that, and he doesn't get to use it even ONCE before being killed off? -nyan

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2016 Apr 26 twhite5970 likes this
Tyene's dagger that he ends up dying to... real-life Areo Hotah probably picks his teeth with weapons of that size. -nyan

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2016 Apr 26 twhite5970 likes this
He didn't even get a word in lol shame -marksizzle

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2016 Apr 26 twhite5970, nyan, alicehanners like this
shame -alicehanners

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2016 Apr 26 nyan, nsimmonds, alicehanners like this
Shame! -crisbell22

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2016 Apr 27 nyan, nsimmonds, alicehanners like this
ding ding ding! -nyan

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2016 May 9

26:55 (+2) Tyene Sand:

Tyene takes the dagger from Areo Hotah's back and throws it at Doran Martell's fleeing messenger. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Political Wins

26:48 (+3) Tyene Sand:

Tyene betrays Doran Martell, killing his bodyguard Areo Hotah as the first strike in Ellaria Sand's coup d'état of Dorne. (Act of Betrayal)

28:07 (+3) Nymeria Sand:

Obara and Nymeria arrive on the Dornish ship to assassinate Trystane.
Obara: "We're not here to feed you. We're here to kill you."
Nymeria: "You want her to do it? Or me? (Act of Betrayal)

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

28:49 (+3) Nymeria Sand:

After Obara performs the named-character Kill Steal on Trystane: "You're a greedy bitch, you know that?" (Funny Line)

29:17 (+3) Tyrion Lannister:

Tyrion with the completely uncalled-for burn on Varys.
Varys: "You walk as though the paving stones were your personal property. I used to steal from people like you when I was a boy."
Tyrion: "It's a good thing you're not a boy anymore. ... Because you have no cock." (Witty Insult)

Acts of Intercourse

46:53 (+20) Melisandre:

Melisandre removes her ruby necklace as she strips down to her true form in front of the mirror. (Non-sexual Nude Scene)

Deaths

26:50 (+10) Areo Hotah:

Areo Hotah dies from a dagger to the back from Tyene Sand, as Ellaria Sand launches her coup d'état of Dorne. (Death)

27:43 (+10) Doran Martell:

Doran Martell bleeds out after being stabbed by Ellaria Sand. "When was the last time you left this palace? You don't know your own people. Their disgust for you. Elia Martell raped and murdered, and you did nothing. Oberyn Martell butchered, and you did nothing. You're not a Dornishman. You're not our Prince." (Death)

Isn't it 19 points for all of these characters because they get an extra point for every episode left in the season? (9) -tyler3005

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2016 Apr 26
I thought the same thing Tyler. I think it needs to be adjusted. I posed on the FB page about it. -marksizzle

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2016 Apr 26
It will be by the end of the season -moonbaseu92

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2016 Apr 26
The post-death points will be awarded in the subsequent episodes, so Doran and the rest will be getting 1pt each in E2, E3, ... thru E10. It'll be 19 points after it's all said and done, but as a sort of trickle-down consolation prize over the rest of the season while you're down a character. -nyan

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2016 Apr 26 tyler3005 likes this
Does Jon Snow get a point for being dead then? -cfitzgerald

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2016 Apr 27
@cfitzgerald check out the discussion at http://fantasora.com/event/1951. It's leaning towards not awarding the points since they are for the rest of the season after they die, and Jon Snow was officially recorded as dying in S5E10. -nyan

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2016 Apr 27

Special

22:29 (+3) Cersei Lannister:

Jaime refers to Myrcella's parentage as Cersei grives: "Listen- listen to me. She was my daughter and I failed her." (Special)

I feel like Jamie should have gotten points for this scene too, they were grieving parents together, clearly referring to their children, and what was taken from them. -taylorreneegoodrich

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2016 May 2
@taylorreneegoodrich, this special originated from the earlier seasons when the paternity of Cersei's children was much more of a hushed secret. It's gotten more difficult to score now that Cersei and Jaime talk about it all the time, but in keeping with the original scoring, Cersei/Jaime get a point when it's someone else who talks about their childrens' bastardy *to* them. In this case it was Jaime's line to Cersei, but Cersei didn't respond back with anything about their kids.

the main distinction we went with is -nyan

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2016 May 2
Cersei also had a glass of wine so where are the points for that? -kimbo

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2016 May 2 joe.puglisi, bookworm13457, sofiazbv, Lem Lemoncake like this

25:35 (+99) Doran Martell:

Doran 'Professor X' Martell turns out to not actually be a wheelchair-bound cripple at all - apparently he was just too lazy to walk anywhere during any part of S5. He takes thirty-two slow, gimpy steps along the way to his wheelchair. Then decides to adjust his dangling right foot for good measure, before fully sitting down.

5 steps in initial overhead scene (25:35)
7 steps to get up the stairs (25:40)
8 steps to the next set of stairs (25:47)
9 steps to the wheelchair (25:55)
3 steps to get in the wheelchair (26:06)
1 step to get his last dangling foot onto the wheelchair (26:11) (Special)

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This is why you should play Roto not direct scoring -moonbaseu92

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2016 Apr 27
This is the opposite of why you should play roto. With roto, whoever has Doran will have a huge advantage in upcoming episodes. With H2H the field is a bit more level next episode. -alicehanners

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2016 Apr 27
Both Roto and H2H have their own ways of dealing with an outsized scoring performance. For H2H, it only counts for 1 win whether you win by 3pts or 100pts, so Doran's performance is capped at 10% of the season and he now won't be contributing much else.

For Roto leagues, teams with Doran will now have a sizeable lead in the Specials category, but there's still time to make it up over the course of the rest of the season (e.g. if Hodor has a Hodor-outburst, it's probably in the same order of magnitude as Doran). Even if 1 performance is good enough to secure a whole category, it's still just 1 of 7 categories (worth ~14%), and Roto scoring is based off of the ranks - if you win a category by 3pts or 100pts, the 2nd-place team in that category is still just -1 roto points behind. -nyan

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2016 Apr 27 moonbaseu92 likes this

29:58 (+3) Tyrion Lannister:

Tyrion gives a coin to the Meereenese homeless woman and her baby to feed themselves. (Special)

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