Matchup: "Diabeto"- Diabeto vs I could've been Iron King but instead I drank my own Euron for Ep 1

"Diabeto"- Diabeto (sbeck22)

Character	Drafted	Total	Insults	Wine	Sex	Special
Daario Naharis Leader of the Second Sons, a sellsword company who broke their contract and now sides with Daenerys.	#22	13	0	5	5	3
Varys Formerly the Master of Whisperers in King's Landing, Varys controls a vast network of spies. He flees King's Landing after aiding in Tyrion Lannister's escape.	#11	9	6	0	0	3
Samwell Tarly A steward of the Night's Watch. He is a close friend to Jon Snow, and one of the few people known to have killed a White Walker.	#27	3	3	0	0	0
Leaf A member of the Children of the Forest. She leads Bran and his companions to cave of the Three-eyed Raven.	#54	0	0	0	0	0
Hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor. hodor.	#38	0	0	0	0	0
Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger) Formerly the Master of Coin, Littlefinger has been sent to the Vale to serve as Warden of the East.	#6	0	0	0	0	0
Myrcella Baratheon The only daughter of King Robert Baratheon and Queen Cersei Lannister. She was sent to Dorne to secure an alliance by marriage with House Martell.	#43	0	0	0	0	0
Tyene Sand One of Oberyn Martell's bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes.	#59	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		25	9	5	5	6

I could've been Iron King but instead I drank my own Euron (cliftonplewis)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Special
Jon Snow The bastard son of Ned Stark, and a member of the Night's Watch. He helped lead the defense of Castle Black against the Wildling siege.	#2	13	10	3
Kevan Lannister The younger brother of Tywin Lannister, Lord of Casterly Rock. He serves as a loyal advisor.	#63	0	0	0
Doran Martell The head of House Martell of Dorne, and elder brother of Prince Oberyn Martell.	#18	0	0	0
Yezzan zo Qaggaz (slave trader) A slave trader from Yunkai.	#50	0	0	0
Barristan Selmy The former Lord Commander of the Kingsguard of Robert and Joffrey Baratheon. After being dismissed by King Joffrey, he joins Daenerys to serve as her advisor and Queensguard.	#15	0	0	0
Podrick Payne A squire who serves Tyrion Lannister.	#34	0	0	0
Eddison Tollett A member of the Night's Watch. Edd commanded some of the forces on the Wall in the Battle at Castle Black.	#47	0	0	0
Qyburn A disgraced former Maester, who was banished from the order for engaging in forbidden experiments. He is recruited by Cersei to assist in various medical facilities.	#31	0	0	0
Totals		13	10	3

Kills

52:44 (+10) Jon Snow:

Jon Snow gives Mance a mercy kill, shooting an arrow through his heart before he is consumed by a burning pyre. (Kill of Named Character)

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To explain more about the philosophy, one of the important parts of the scorekeeping is that it can objectively follow definitions, without requiring judgment calls on the part of some scorekeeper (which can be subjective). In this case, I agree with both of you that Stannis probably "deserves" some credit - without his actions, Mance wouldn't have been put in a position to be killed. But "put in a position to be killed" is a little murky to make a rule for - how do you draw the line? Is it really Melisandre that puts him in that position because she starts the fire burning?

Given that, I think it's better to stick to the scoring definitions, because there's no subjectivity to them. And sometimes it results in a "deserving" character losing points, but that's fantasy sometimes - just like a football RB who hauls his team to the goal line, only for the backup to sub in and score the 1yd touchdown. -nyan

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2015 Apr 14 moonbaseu92 and coconnor723 like this
I agree with Nyan. Riddle me this: If someone (King A) commands his executioner (Brute) to kill the shopgirl (Lass), and Lass flees to Other Country where she is run over by a cart and dies, does King A get the point? Everyone's actions contribute. The point is, Mance was killed by Jon Snow. Jon Snow was NOT commanded to kill him by Stannis. Therefore, it's not a commanded kill. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 19
That's different because Mance didn't escape from the fire and run away while Jon shot at him to keep him from escaping. He was in the process of dying. Even if Jon hadn't intervened, he still would've been dead. I know Stannis won't get points for that, and I don't care, I'm just saying that I disagree with your example. -kas113

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2015 Apr 21 moonbaseu92 likes this

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

13:10 (+3) Varys:

Tyrion: "Do you know what it's like to stuff your shit through one of those airholes?"
Varys: "No. I only know what it's like to pick up your shit and throw it overboard." (Funny Line)

20:54 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

"How many Brothers can say that they've killed a White Walker *and* a Thenn? I might be the first in history!" (Funny Line)

This isn't an insult and I don't find it funny. Out of context, it's not funny, and in context, it shows Sam's laziness, where Gilly is in fairly constant danger, surrounded by men who hate her, but Sam doesn't want to train because he had a few lucky moments beyond the wall.

Is this category purely "made the scorekeeper laugh"? Gilly certainly didn't find it funny and it wasn't delivered as though it was humor. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 19
I thought it was clearly meant to be humor. I think it was a "funny", although I didn't find it laugh out loud funny either. Also I don't think running a "is it funny out of context" test is very useful for judging something's funni'ness. Generally isn't comedy mostly about context? -moonbaseu92

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2015 Apr 20
I meant that it was LESS fun in context, but wasn't even funny out of context.

I don't know how you can think it's humor. It's Sam trying to puff up for Gilly as an excuse for why he isn't training. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 20
It might be seen as delivered as humor if Sam was using it to jokingly poke fun at how useless he is otherwise (hey, remember those two times I ended up doing something right??), but you can tell he's genuinely proud of himself and thinks he can protect Gilly because of this.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Sam, but this moment was sad and I felt bad for Gilly. Not humor at all. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 20
The "context" for humor is that of the viewer - many jokes won't be funny at all to any characters in-universe, but the humor is meant for those *watching* the show. In this case, Sam isn't telling a joke and Gilly isn't perceiving it as a joke. But the viewer obviously sees through Samwell's weak attempt at a brag for what it is, and Samwell's vanity is the joke here. I agree that it's not the greatest laugh-out-loud moment in the show, but enough people wrote in suggesting this one that we added it. -nyan

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2015 Apr 21

36:08 (+3) Varys:

Varys: "You have your father's instincts for politics. And you have compassion."
Tyrion: "Compassion? Yes... I killed my lover with my bare hands. I shot my own father with a crossbow."
Varys: "I never said you were perfect." (Funny Line)

Glasses of Wine Consumed

40:14 (+5) Daario Naharis :

Daario drinks in bed with Daenerys. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Acts of Intercourse

39:31 (+5) Daario Naharis :

Daario pours wine after a session with Daenerys, as they discuss the re-opening of the fighting pits. (Act of Intercourse)

Special

23:07 (+3) Jon Snow:

Melisandre announces Jon Snow to Stannis: "Your Grace. The bastard of Winterfell." (Special)

34:51 (+3) Varys:

Tyrion: "Eunuch. The Spider. The Master of Whisperers." (Special)

39:02 (+3) Daario Naharis :

While Daenerys holds court with Hizdahr zo Loraq, Daario pulls out his dagger and suggestively strokes its naked lady hilt while Daenerys eyes him. (Special)

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