Matchup: Jon Blows Snow vs Jorah the Explorah for Ep 7

Jon Blows Snow (wpbutler1605)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults	Special
Olenna Redwyne (Grandma Tyrell) The matriarch of House Tyrell, Olenna is the grandmother of Margaery and Loras. Known as the "Queen of Thorns" for her sarcasm and wit.	#60	9	0	0	9	0
Theon Greyjoy Heir to the Iron Islands, and formerly a ward of House Stark. Theon is currently a captive of Ramsay Bolton.	#12	9	0	3	0	6
Ramsay Bolton The legitimized bastard son of Roose Bolton, now Warden of the North. He is fond of the Bolton tradition of flaying their enemies.	#21	7	4	3	0	0
Jon Snow The bastard son of Ned Stark, and a member of the Night's Watch. He helped lead the defense of Castle Black against the Wildling siege.	#5	3	0	3	0	0
Hot Pie An orphan from King's Landing. He works at the Inn at the Crossroads as a baker.	#37	0	0	0	0	0
Podrick Payne A squire who serves Tyrion Lannister.	#53	0	0	0	0	0
White Walker (Samurai, formerly mislabeled Hobo) The White Walker in a samurai suit.	#44	0	0	0	0	0
Tormund Giantsbane A leader of the Wildlings, he is a trusted lieutenant and second-in-command to Mance Rayder, the King Beyond the Wall.	#28	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		28	4	9	9	6

Jorah the Explorah (drewvenkatraman)

Character	Drafted	Total	Insults	Sex
Daenerys Targaryen The last royal member of the Targaryen dynasty, Daenerys seeks to return home and reclaim the Iron Throne. With her three dragons and an army on Unsullied warriors, she has conquered several slave cities and rules over the city of Meereen.	#1	15	0	15
Tyene Sand One of Oberyn Martell's bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes.	#48	10	0	10
Margaery Tyrell The daughter of Mace Tyrell, head of House Tyrell. Betrothed to King Tommen, she is the queen-to-be and active in the politics of King's Landing.	#17	6	6	0
Beric Dondarrion Lord of Blackhaven, bannermen to House Baratheon. He now leads the Brotherhood Without Banners, an outlaw fighting group in the Riverlands.	#64	0	0	0
Hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor hodor Hodor. hodor.	#16	0	0	0
Tommen Baratheon The new King of the Seven Kingdoms.	#33	0	0	0
Davos Seaworth A former smuggler, Ser Davos is now a knight serving Stannis Baratheon, and one of his most trusted advisors, though he is often at odds with the Red Priestess Melisandre.	#32	0	0	0
Myrcella Baratheon The only daughter of King Robert Baratheon and Queen Cersei Lannister. She was sent to Dorne to secure an alliance by marriage with House Martell.	#49	0	0	0
Totals		31	6	25

Kills

8:12 (+2) Ramsay Bolton:

Sansa emerges from her bed, showing the bruises that have been inflicted on her by Ramsay. (Minor Injury of Named Character)

15:42 (+2) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay has the old woman who attempted to help Sansa flayed and killed. "Tough old bird. Everyone talks when I start peeling them. But this one, her heart gave out before I even got to her face." (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Isn't that an act of torture? -chadhazellief

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2015 May 26
It would be, but I'm not sure about counting it as it happened off-screen. The kills were counted based on the prior precedent that dead bodies + explanation on how they were killed is good enough to count as a kill. But should off-screen torture count for Ramsay's special? "+1 point for every scene featuring an act of torture."

Submit it and see what others think? -nyan

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2015 May 26 chadhazellief likes this
Yeah, I think there's a reasonable debate on both sides of this. I think if Ramsay simply *said* he killed these people, it wouldn't count. However in this case, we're shown all three flayed bodies in the scene preceding this one. So the precedent would be that we are shown bodies + details of the kill (enough to confirm the killer).

You said that week 3 and he got like 16 points -chadhazellief

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2015 May 27
That precedent still holds for Kills. I'm wondering if it's something that should be extended to the Specials category as well. Some things to run through the thought experiment:

* If Sansa says that she "cried all night", and looks sad (but not crying), would she get a special point?
* If Brienne yells at Podrick "I can't believe you burned down the tent last night!", but we never see the burning (only the charred tent), does it count?

Hmm, as I think of it more... we give Sex points for the scenes where they're just in bed afterwards, too. I think you have a good case that the torture should count. Go ahead and submit them in! -nyan

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2015 May 27

Political Wins

5:18 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon Snow is given a dragonglass dagger by Samwell Tarly, in the event that he needs to fend off the White Walkers. (Politics - uncategorized)

10:01 (+3) Theon Greyjoy:

After promising to help Sansa Stark light a signal candle at the top of the broken tower, Reek instead goes directly to Ramsay Bolton to inform him of Sansa's plot. (Politics - uncategorized)

submitted by wpearsal (approved!)

It seemed like Ramsay was a little surprised when Theon showed up, and I had thought Theon just got busted and had to confess at that point. If Theon went straight to Ramsay with the intention of telling him about Sansa's plot though, I agree it would be a betrayal. I'll have to watch the scene again, but how did others interpret the scene? -nyan

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2015 May 26
Ramsay was not dining in the broken tower. They filmed it to make it appear as though Reek was going to the tower, but he wasn't. Nobody uses the tower. The top room is an attic-y thing, remember? That's where Bran caught Jaime and Cersei. So yeah, Reek deliberately betrayed Sansa. -alicehanners

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2015 May 27 moonbaseu92 likes this
Yeah @alicehanners and @wpearsal, you both are right. Totally misinterpreted the scene on my first watching. This will count as a betrayal. -nyan

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2015 May 27
Should he also get points for "betraying" the old lady? Although I'm not sure how he found out who the "friend" of Sansa was. Maybe credit to the show writers for that plot hole. -moonbaseu92

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2015 May 27
The old lady never trusted Reek, so it wouldn't count as a betrayal for her. -nyan

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10:03 (+3) Ramsay Bolton:

Ramsay discovers Sansa's attempt to call for help after he encounters Reek at the top of the broken tower, prepared to light a signal candle. (Politics - uncategorized)

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

33:31 (+3) Olenna Redwyne (Grandma Tyrell):

High Sparrow: "I'm telling you a simple truth - I serve the Gods. The Gods demand justice."
Olenna: "How do they communicate their demands? By raven or horse?" (Witty Insult)

44:24 (+3) Olenna Redwyne (Grandma Tyrell):

Petyr Baelish: "It was an establishment like no other. The sheer range of appetites catered to. Desires that didn't even exist until we invented them."
Olenna: "You've always been rather impressed with yourself, haven't you?" (Witty Insult)

44:59 (+3) Olenna Redwyne (Grandma Tyrell):

Petyr Baelish: "I promise you-"
Olenna Tyrell: "I promise you, Lord Baelish, that our fates are joined. Together we murdered a king. If my house should fall, I will have nothing to hide. And if I should meet with some accident here at your broken little flesh market, they'll never even find what's left of you." (Threat)

52:45 (+3) Margaery Tyrell:

to Cersei: "Lies come easily to you. Everyone knows that. But innocence, decency, concern, you're not very good at those, I'm afraid. Perhaps that's why your son was so eager to cast you aside for me." (Witty Insult)

53:34 (+3) Margaery Tyrell:

to Cersei in the dungeons: "Get out you hateful bitch!" (Threat)

submitted by alicehanners (approved!)

Acts of Intercourse

29:24 (+10) Daenerys Targaryen:

Daenerys and Daario Naharis share pillowtalk after a session in her chambers. (Act of Intercourse)

There's the briefest of nip slips as Daario rolls on top of her. -nyan

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2015 May 26
That was the blanket over her nip. How can you count that. That actress isn't going topless anymore
-mmccor4140

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2015 May 26
as the scene opens it seems as if they've just finished having sex, but as the scene continues daario totally gets it in again. -angurtheconsumer

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2015 May 26
@mmccor4140 I can upload a more detailed sequence of frames - in the shots surrounding the one when Daario rolls over, the sheet no longer covers her (it's around her waist level). I know the actress has stated that, but it looks like it slipped in there (and circumstantial evidence indicates the sheet could not have been there). -nyan

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2015 May 26
@angurtheconsumer I'll have to rewatch but you may be right - go ahead and submit it! -nyan

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30:04 (+5) Daenerys Targaryen:

As she and Daario Naharis have post-sex pillow talk, Daario rolls on top of her and mounts her again. (Act of Intercourse)

submitted by angurtheconsumer (approved!)

41:14 (+10) Tyene Sand:

Tyene strips down to toy with Bronn as he suffers from the effects of her poisoned dagger. (Non-sexual Nude Scene)

Special

7:41 (+3) Theon Greyjoy:

to Sansa: "I'm not Theon, m'lady. I'm Reek." (Special)

8:39 (+3) Theon Greyjoy:

Sansa: "Promise me, Theon."
Reek: "Reek! My name is Reek." (Special)

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