Matchup: A team has no name vs whetstone for Ep 1

A team has no name (spence2020)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Deaths	Special
Sandor Clegane (The Hound) A fearsome Lannister knight, formerly known as the Hound. After being left for dead after losing a fight with Brienne of Tarth, he recovered and briefly reformed as a laborer in a nonviolent commune, but has joined with Beric Dondarrion and the Brotherhood without Banners after bandits attack and destroy the village.	#17	24	6	15	0	3
Jon Snow Recently declared King in the North, he is the bastard son of Ned Stark, and formerly served as Lord Commander of the Night's Watch before he was betrayed by his fellow men.	#4	12	9	3	0	0
Harald Karstark A northern lord, allied with the Boltons. He was the son of Rickard Karstark, who was beheaded by Robb Stark for treason.	#84	5	0	0	5	0
Olenna Redwyne (Grandma Tyrell) The matriarch of House Tyrell, Olenna seeks only revenge against the Lannisters after Cersei wiped out nearly all of House Tyrell in the wildfire explosion at the Sept of Baelor. She is known as the "Queen of Thorns" for her sarcasm and wit.	#24	0	0	0	0	0
Obara Sand The eldest of Prince Oberyn Martell's bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes. She wields a spear.	#44	0	0	0	0	0
High Priestess Kinvara The High Priestess of the Red Temple in Volantis.	#64	0	0	0	0	0
Randyll Tarly Samwell Tarly's disapproving father. He is the Lord of House Tarly, and was one of the greatest soldiers in Westeros.	#37	0	0	0	0	0
Chella Leader of the Black Ears, one of the hill tribes living in the west of the Vale.	#97	0	0	0	0	0
Yezzan zo Qaggaz (slave trader) A slave trader from Yunkai. He briefly owns Jorah Mormont, who he brings to the fighting pits of Meereen, and is present during the slavers' attack on Meereen. He is the only slave master spared by Daenerys, who sends him to Astapor with a message for those who would oppose the Mother of Dragons.	#77	0	0	0	0	0
Qhono A Dothraki bloodrider, he swears allegiance to Daenerys after she burns all of the other Khals alive in Dosh Khaleen.	#57	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		41	15	18	5	3

whetstone (michael.childs)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics
White Walker (Night King) The leader of the White Walkers.	#7	3	3
Marei A prostitute working in Littlefinger's brothel.	#94	0	0
Ellaria Sand The former paramour of Prince Oberyn. She is also the mother of several of his bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes, and plots revenge against the Lannisters for Oberyn's death. After assassinating Prince Doran and overtaking Dorne, she joins forces with Daenerys Targaryen as she sails west to retake the Iron Throne.	#34	0	0
Talla Tarly Samwell's sister.	#74	0	0
Daisy A new prostitute employed in the brothels of Littlefinger.	#87	0	0
Bianca (Sansa actress) A young Braavosi actress who portrays Sansa Stark in a Braavosi play depicting the political events of Westeros. (played by Eline Powell)	#47	0	0
Vance Corbray A member of Lysa Arryn's court.	#67	0	0
Nymeria Sand One of Oberyn Martell's bastards, known as Sand Snakes. She's into whips.	#14	0	0
Robin Arryn The young, sickly son of the late Jon Arryn and Lysa Tully. He is Lord of the Vale, although he is easily manipualted by Lord Petyr Baelish, who serves as Lord Protector until he comes of age.	#27	0	0
Hot Pie An orphan from King's Landing. He works at the Inn at the Crossroads as a baker.	#54	0	0
Totals		3	3

Political Wins

7:26 (+3) White Walker (Night King):

The Night King marches across the tundra, having newly added several wight Giants to his army. (Acquire a New Castle/City/Army/Loot)

12:31 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon refuses to strip the Umbers and Karstarks of their castles for Smalljon and Harald's treasonous siding with Ramsay Bolton, despite the objections from Sansa and the other Northern lords.

"...I will not punish a son for his father's sins, and I will not take a family home away from a family it has belonged to for centuries.
That is my decision, and my decision is final." (Executive Decision)

13:14 (+6) Jon Snow:

Jon receives pledges of loyalty from Ned Umber and Alys Karstark, the new heads of their respective houses after Smalljon Umber and Harald Karstark died in the Battle of Winterfell. (New Follower/Prisoner)

45:38 (+6) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

While looking into Thoros' flames, Sandor Clegane discovers the location of the planned White Walker invasion: Eastwatch-by-the-Sea.

"Ice. A wall of ice. The Wall. ... It's where the Wall meets the sea. There's a castle there. There's a mountain. Looks like an arrowhead. The dead are marching past. Thousands of them." (Secret Discovery)

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is this really a secret discovery? i remember we counted bran's discoveries while time travelling but those were actually displayed to us, the audience. this didn't happen here and it is not confirmed if this is truly what's going to happen. -Lem Lemoncake

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2017 Jul 20
Would characters present receive the "Secret Discovery" and/or Thoros have had the same Secret Discovery? -EvanWolfe

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2017 Jul 21 jake.kmiech likes this
@Lem Lemoncake it does flirt the line, especially as we've seen with Melisandre, a lot of her supposedly prophetic visions of Stannis as Azor Ahai turned out to be false. There is also a retroactive perspective, what if say a character gets spy reports from someone who was a double-agent, and it's actually a betryal in the end? My gut is to let these points exist, there will be plot twists so no secret is 100% infallible. But this is much more of a secret than Melisandre's visions, because it includes very specific, actionable information rather than "Stannis I saw that you were King and fighting against the WW someday".

@EvanWolfe, good point about Thoros/Beric as well... it seems like they've been generally aware of this, but in any case that'd be new information since the last time we saw them. I'll add secret points for them both. -nyan

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Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

14:58 (+3) Jon Snow:

Sansa Stark: "They respect you, they really do, but you have to- Why are you laughing?"
Jon Snow: "What did father used to say? Everything before the word 'but' is horse shit." (Witty Insult)

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40:08 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Thoros: "Bad night to be outdoors."
Sandor: "You've got real powerful magic to figure that out. Did the Lord of Light whisper that in your ear? 'It's snowwing, Thoros.
It's winnndy. It's gonna be a coold night.'" (Funny Line)

40:17 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Thoros: "Why are you always in such a foul mood?"
Sandor: "... Experience." (Funny Line)

41:04 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

to Thoros: "I'll tell you what doesn't scare me: bald cocksuckers like you. You think you're fooling anyone with that top knot?" (Witty Insult)

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44:22 (+6) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

"It's my fucking luck I end up with a band of fire-worshippers" -as Thoros beckons him over to check out the magic prophecy fire he just started (Funny Line)

Deaths

11:48 (+5) Harald Karstark:

Jon confirms that Harald Karstark died in the Battle of Winterfell (i.e. the Battle of the Bastards). "The punishment for treason is death. Smalljon Umber died on the field of battle.
Harald Karstark died on the field of battle." (Death)

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I argued pretty hard for the dip to 5 points after last season.

Basically it became really easy to reserve like 1/3 of your roster slots for streaming randos who were likely to die in the next episode, and this strategy was incredibly powerful in H2H with 10 point deaths. -jedjackoway

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2017 Jul 19 nyan and alicehanners like this
We'll keep it at 5, along the lines of the discussion last season. The deaths are a nice consolation, but shouldn't be a dominant strategy and it was being used that way with the adds. -nyan

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2017 Jul 20 jake.kmiech likes this
Good discussion. I love the site. I wish I was Bruce Wayne and we'd have this better than ESPN fanasty apps! -patmcconnell

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2017 Aug 6

Special

42:43 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor takes a bite out of some pocket jerky. (Special)

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