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6.5 roto pts (#1)
Z-Score: 0.707 (percentile: 76.03%)
Weeks at #1: 7
Categories won: Kills (116)
Best Week: Episode 7: The Gift (+1 roto points)
Team MVP: Jorah Mormont (picked #10, 36 points, 31.03% of team total)

Roster Stats

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills
Jorah Mormont The exiled head of House Mormont. Jorah was previously one of Daenerys' most trusted advisors, but was banished when his time serving as a spy for Robert Baratheon was revealed to her.	#10	36	36
Jon Snow The bastard son of Ned Stark, and a member of the Night's Watch. He helped lead the defense of Castle Black against the Wildling siege.	#7	35	35
Daario Naharis Leader of the Second Sons, a sellsword company who broke their contract and now sides with Daenerys.	#6	29	29
Arya Stark The youngest of the Stark girls. She travels to Braavos to seek Jaqen H'gar.	#2	14	14
Jaime Lannister The second of the Lannister children, he is Cersei's lover and twin brother, and also the father of her three children. He also serves as Lord Commander of the Kingsguard.	#3	2	2
Roose Bolton Lord of House Bolton, and Warden of the North after his betrayal of Robb Stark at the Red Wedding. He is the father of Ramsay Bolton, who is his bastard son.	#11	0	0
Totals		116	116

Roster

charId	Character	Special
6	Arya Stark The youngest of the Stark girls. She travels to Braavos to seek Jaqen H'gar.	* Nymeria's actions contribute to her points. * +1 point for reciting her hitlist * adopting a new Faceless Man disguise
19	Jaime Lannister The second of the Lannister children, he is Cersei's lover and twin brother, and also the father of her three children. He also serves as Lord Commander of the Kingsguard.	* +1 point for awkward waves with his metal hand * +1 point when he uses his metal hand in a combat situation * +1 point when someone (excl. Cersei) references incest with Cersei or her childrens' bastardy directly to him * 2x multiplier for sex acts involving incest (first cousin or closer)
36	Daario Naharis Leader of the Second Sons, a sellsword company who broke their contract and now sides with Daenerys.	+1 point each time he flirts with Daenerys.
39	Jon Snow The bastard son of Ned Stark, and a member of the Night's Watch. He helped lead the defense of Castle Black against the Wildling siege.	* +1 each time he unintentionally drops Longclaw * +1 point each time he is called a bastard in his presence * Ghost's actions contribute to his points.
32	Jorah Mormont The exiled head of House Mormont. Jorah was previously one of Daenerys' most trusted advisors, but was banished when his time serving as a spy for Robert Baratheon was revealed to her.	* +1 point when he explains to someone he has Greyscale * +1 point in each scene that Jorah serves as an encyclopedia for Essos culture. * +1 point each time Daenerys convinces him to go on a mission / do something that doesn't involve being anywhere around her (friendzone)
86	Roose Bolton Lord of House Bolton, and Warden of the North after his betrayal of Robb Stark at the Red Wedding. He is the father of Ramsay Bolton, who is his bastard son.	+1 politics point for lectures given to his son Ramsay

Kills

Episode 1: The Wars to Come

52:44 (+10) Jon Snow:

Jon Snow gives Mance a mercy kill, shooting an arrow through his heart before he is consumed by a burning pyre. (Kill of Named Character)

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To explain more about the philosophy, one of the important parts of the scorekeeping is that it can objectively follow definitions, without requiring judgment calls on the part of some scorekeeper (which can be subjective). In this case, I agree with both of you that Stannis probably "deserves" some credit - without his actions, Mance wouldn't have been put in a position to be killed. But "put in a position to be killed" is a little murky to make a rule for - how do you draw the line? Is it really Melisandre that puts him in that position because she starts the fire burning?

Given that, I think it's better to stick to the scoring definitions, because there's no subjectivity to them. And sometimes it results in a "deserving" character losing points, but that's fantasy sometimes - just like a football RB who hauls his team to the goal line, only for the backup to sub in and score the 1yd touchdown. -nyan

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2015 Apr 14 moonbaseu92 and coconnor723 like this
I agree with Nyan. Riddle me this: If someone (King A) commands his executioner (Brute) to kill the shopgirl (Lass), and Lass flees to Other Country where she is run over by a cart and dies, does King A get the point? Everyone's actions contribute. The point is, Mance was killed by Jon Snow. Jon Snow was NOT commanded to kill him by Stannis. Therefore, it's not a commanded kill. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 19
That's different because Mance didn't escape from the fire and run away while Jon shot at him to keep him from escaping. He was in the process of dying. Even if Jon hadn't intervened, he still would've been dead. I know Stannis won't get points for that, and I don't care, I'm just saying that I disagree with your example. -kas113

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2015 Apr 21 moonbaseu92 likes this

Episode 2: The House of Black and White

23:36 (+1) Daario Naharis :

Daario stabs a member of the Sons of the Harpy, who was concealed behind the wall of a hideout. (Major Injury of Unnamed Character)

44:07 (+2) Arya Stark:

Arya kills a pigeon on the streets of Braavos. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

51:07 (+10) Daario Naharis :

Daario beheads Mossador with his arakh in a public execution. Mossador was sentenced to death on Daenerys' orders, after he murdered the captive Son of the Harpy. (Kill of Named Character)

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If you have a low scoring team week in and week out, I don't think you should be able to move up in the rankings, right? You should have to have players that score points to move up. Roto scoring will keep it closer than raw scoring because the total points you can get for each category is limited by how many teams are in your league, but you still have to have points to move up in the standings. You're best bet might be head-to-head scoring if you want something to matter from week to week, but that also has its limitations because some characters can disappear for several episodes (i.e. Roose, Theon, and Ramsay so far) -wpearsal

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2015 Apr 21 moonbaseu92 and nyan like this
wpearsal, it wouldn't be about moving up in the rankings if you have a low-scoring team. It would mean moving up in the rankings--just a BIT--if your team is the ONLY one scoring. Imagine if your team sucks through episodes 1-5 and then in episode 6, you score 5x what anyone else does in every category. Yet it barely makes a dent in raw stats and doesn't affect you at all in roto. I'm not saying you should win, but "winning" an episode should matter. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 23
Clarifying a bit on Roto scoring - Roto Points *always* represent the current state for the season so far, NOT the current episode. So huge performances *will* be able to dramatically shift the standings, similar to normal Direct Points (but unlike the H2H leagues).

So alicehanners in your scenario:
TeamsA/B/C (3 teams) all score 3-5 kills per episode, from Episodes 1-8.
TeamD scores 1 kill per episode from E1-8, and is last place in the category so far.

At the end of E8, TeamA/B/C will have 4, 3, and 2 Roto pts for Kills. TeamD will have 1 Roto pt.

Then TeamD has a HUGE Episode 9 where they score 100+ Kills, enough to put them in 1st place overall for the season. They will jump 3 spots in the category ranking, and at the end of E9 TeamD has 4 Roto pts for Kills, A/B/C have 3, 2, and 1 pts.

Say E10 is a quiet episode and everyone has 1-2 kills, not enough to change the standings. In that case, TeamD remains in the lead for Kills, and ends the season with 4 Roto pts and wins the league (if Kills are the only category).

So for "it barely makes a dent in raw stats and doesn't affect you at all in roto", I think the opposite is actually true. A big episode can mean a huge standings shift in Roto and Normal Direct-scoring leagues. H2H is where it would be impossible to make a big standings shift (a win is still just 1 win, regardless of whether you win 18-15 or 88-15). -nyan

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Episode 3: The High Sparrow

40:26 (+10) Jon Snow:

Jon Snow executes Janos Slynt for insubordination, after he publicly defies Jon's orders to head out to Greyguard tower. (Kill of Named Character)

Episode 4: The Sons of the Harpy

2:10 (+1) Jorah Mormont:

In the middle of the night, Jorah knocks out a fisherman with a haymaker and steals his boat. (Major Injury of Unnamed Character)

35:33 (+2) Jaime Lannister:

Jaime catches the sabre of the Dornish rider in his metal hand, allowing him to retrieve his sword and stab him. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Episode 5: Kill the Boy

52:09 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah retrieves his sword and cuts down one of the Stone Men that leaps onto his boat. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

52:14 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah stabs through one of the Stone Men with his sword. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Episode 6: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

15:19 (+2) Arya Stark:

Arya eases the pain of a sick girl by helping her drink the poisonous water from the House of Black and White. "...I drank the water from his fountain. It healed me. I've devoted my life to him now. You don't want to hurt anymore? Drink." (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Episode 7: The Gift

49:30 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah elbows Yezzan zo Qaggaz in the nose as he emerges into the fighting pit. (Minor Injury of Named Character)

49:34 (+5) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah enters the fighting pits and knocks out the remaining five fighters in hopes of winning Daenerys' favor. (Major Injury of Unnamed Character)

Episode 8: Hardhome

47:58 (+1) Jon Snow:

Jon runs his sword through a wight that emerges through a hole in the Hardhome walls, holding it in place until Tormund can come to patch the wall up with a sledge. (Major Injury of Unnamed Character)

49:08 (+4) Jon Snow:

Jon swings through two wights as he runs towards the building were the dragonglass daggers were left. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

51:51 (+10) Jon Snow:

After parrying the White Walker's ice spear with his Valyrian Steel sword, Longclaw, Jon slashes through the White Walker, shattering his body into bits of ice. (Kill of Named Character)

Episode 9: The Dance of Dragons

41:22 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah plunges a dagger into the heart of the long-axe-wielding pit fighter. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

43:39 (+10) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah does a somersault and then stabs his sword through the stomach of the pit fighter, named as the "Meereenese Champion" earlier. (Kill of Named Character)

44:04 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah throws a spear into the gallery, killing a Son of the Harpy who had been sneaking up behind Daenerys. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

44:46 (+4) Daario Naharis :

Daario kills two Sons of the Harpy as they reveal themselves and try to attack Daenerys. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

45:11 (+2) Daario Naharis :

Daario kills another Son of the Harpy while defending Daenerys in the fighting pit gallery. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

45:13 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah kills a Son of the Harpy with his dagger as he makes his way over to help protect Daenerys. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

46:02 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah stabs a Son of the Harpy who attempts to ambush Daenerys in the fighting pit escape tunnel. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

47:08 (+4) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah cuts down two enemies as Daenerys' group becomes encircled by the Sons of the Harpy mob. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

47:18 (+8) Daario Naharis :

Daario cuts down four enemies as Daenerys' group becomes encircled by the Sons of the Harpy mob. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

49:13 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah stabs through a Son of the Harpy in the fighting pit. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

49:13 (+2) Daario Naharis :

Daario slices a Son of the Harpy with his arakh in the middle of the fighting pits. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

49:46 (+2) Daario Naharis :

Daario throws his dagger into the stomach of a spear-wielding Son of the Harpy. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

22:44 (+10) Arya Stark:

Arya brutally stabs Merynt Trant in a Braavosi brothel, before slitting his throat in revenge for the death of Syrio Forel. "I've gotten a few of the others (on her hitlist). The Many-Faced God stole a few more from me. But I'm glad he left me you." (Kill of Named Character)

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