Matchup: queen in the north vs torienne5ever for Ep 4

queen in the north (ichithavong)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Wine	Thrones	Deaths	Special	Feels
Sansa Stark	#11	38	6	3	10	1	0	3	15
Sandor Clegane (The Hound)	#14	32	0	0	15	0	0	9	8
Davos Seaworth	#19	11	0	0	10	1	0	0	0
Arya Stark	#6	8	3	0	0	0	0	0	5
Samwell Tarly	#22	8	0	0	0	0	0	3	5
Theon Greyjoy	#30	2	0	0	0	0	2	0	0
Drogon	#3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Harry Strickland	#27	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Top-Knot White Walkers One of the Night King's lieutenants, this is the White Walker who grabs the ice spear and hands it to the Night Walker during the dragon battle at the frozen lake.	#38	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Melisandre	#35	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		99	9	3	35	2	2	15	33

torienne5ever (dcylim92)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults	Wine	Sex	Thrones	Deaths	Special	Feels
Tormund Giantsbane	#13	52	0	3	9	10	5	0	0	12	13
Bronn	#21	22	1	0	15	5	0	1	0	0	0
Cersei Lannister	#5	8	0	8	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Rhaegal	#12	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	5	0	0
Beric Dondarrion	#28	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0
Wight Giants (extras)	#29	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Meera Reed	#36	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Jaqen H'ghar	#37	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Grey Worm	#20	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Wight Army (Extras)	#4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		89	1	11	24	15	5	1	7	12	13

Kills

40:01 (+1) Bronn:

Bronn punches Tyrion square in the nose, rendering it bloody. "I've never hit a dwarf before, but say another word and I will belt you." (Minor Injury of Named Character)

Political Wins

38:17 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Arya and Sansa learn of Jon Snow's true heritage as a secret Targaryen and heir to the Iron Throne. (Secret Discovery)

38:17 (+3) Arya Stark:

Arya and Sansa learn of Jon Snow's true heritage as a secret Targaryen and heir to the Iron Throne. (Secret Discovery)

46:50 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Sansa breaks her promise to Jon, divulging his secret heritage to Tyrion Lannister. "What if there's someone else? Someone better?" (Act of Betrayal)

50:36 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon gives charge of Ghost to Tormund, to take him back to his natural habitat north of the Wall. (New Follower/Prisoner)

57:52 (+3) Cersei Lannister:

As a result of the Iron Fleet attacks on Daenerys' ships, Cersei captures Missandei. (New Follower/Prisoner)

75:52 (+5) Cersei Lannister:

Cersei carries through on her threat as the Mountain beheads the prisoner Missandei in front of Daenerys and her advisors during the attempted parley. (Kill of Named Character (Orchestrated))

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

14:47 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund demands Jon finish off his horn of wine in front of a celebratory crowd at the Feast of Winterfell.

Tormund: "We have to celebrate our victory."
Jon: "Vomiting is not celebrating."
Tormund: "...yes, it is." (Funny Line)

18:54 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

"Now, which one of you cowards shit in my pants?" (Funny Line)

21:27 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Sansa: "... he got what he deserved. I gave it to him."
Sandor: "How?"
Sansa: "Hounds." (Funny Line)

39:22 (+3) Bronn:

Bronn comments after hearing of Jaime's relationship with Brienne.

"I knew you were fucking her. A pair of tall, blond toffs. Must be like looking in the mirror." (Witty Insult)

39:52 (+3) Bronn:

Tyrion: "You're a knight, thanks to me."
Bronn: "Thanks to me. And that title's worth as much as a blond hair from your brother's ballsack." (Witty Insult)

40:05 (+3) Bronn:

Tyrion: "You broke my nose!"
Bronn: "I did not break your nose."
Tyrion: "How do you know?"
Bronn: "Because I've been breaking noses since I was your size, and I know what it sounds like." (Funny Line)

40:50 (+3) Bronn:

Tyrion: "May I speak?
Bronn: "Why not? Only death will shut you up." (Witty Insult)

41:48 (+3) Bronn:

Jaime: "Highgarden will never belong to a cutthroat."
Bronn: "Who were your ancestors, the ones who made your family rich? Fancy lads in silk? They were fucking cutthroats.
That's how all the great houses started, isn't it? With a hard bastard who was good at killing people. Kill a few hundred people, they make you a lord. Kill a few thousand, they make you king. And then all your cocksucking grandsons can ruin the family with their cocksucking ways." (Funny Line)

47:26 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon: "Rhaegal needs to heal. He doesn't need me weighing him down."
Tormund: "You weigh as much as two fleas fucking." (Witty Insult)

Glasses of Wine Consumed

9:02 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sansa drinks from her cup at the head table as the awkward family dinner commences. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

9:53 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sansa stuffs her face with another cup as Gendry scoots his way down the aisle. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

A note on the scoring criteria here - normally it's scored per-glass in a scene (e.g. multiple sips not counted unless a refill is seen in between). However this ended up being such a long scene that there weren't the traditional cuts in between (like with the fireplace scenes in E2). I decided to treat it like a battle and somewhat arbitrarily divide the Feast of Winterfell into "scenes" based on which groups of character we cut to. Not perfect and open to thoughts on this rubric.

We probably wouldn't backdate scores this season but I'm coming around to counting every sip instead. Feels like the "not counted until refilled" is not the most fun mechanic, this was originally defined to get the numbers closest to actual "Glasses of Wine Consumed". -nyan

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I think if you’re changing it to every sip it’s unfair not to back date it. Think how many points tormund would have missed out on in ep2 for instance. -conor_finlay

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12:31 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund glugs straight from the pitcher during the Feast of Winterfell. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

submitted by fenrojas (approved!)

12:31 (+5) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor takes a sip in the blurry background as Davos and Tyrion talk about Melisandre. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

13:31 (+5) Davos Seaworth:

Davos is handed a cup by Tyrion as they worry about the mysteries of the Lord of Light and the political infighting situation. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

15:02 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund drinks from his horn as the crowd toasts both Daenerys and Arya. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

16:25 (+5) Davos Seaworth:

Davos drinks in the foreground as Tormund regales the crowd with the legends of Jon Snow. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

20:24 (+5) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Clegane takes another bitter drink as growls at a Northern girl who attempts to hit on him. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

21:38 (+5) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor drinks from his refill as he talks bluntly with Sansa about her experiences. "You've changed, little bird." (Glass of Wine Consumed)

41:49 (+5) Bronn:

Bronn has a sip from Tyrion's tasty beverage as he holds both of the Lannister brothers at bay with a crossbow. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Acts of Intercourse

19:48 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

After being spurned by Brienne, Tormund rebounds with a Northern girl who fancies him at the Feast of Winterfell.

Northern girl: " You can touch me. I'm not afraid of Wildlings."
Tormund: "Maybe you should be."
(Act of Intercourse)

A Game of Thrones

8:54 (+1) Sansa Stark:

Sansa sits at the head table during the celebratory feast at Winterfell. (Basic Seat)

10:11 (+1) Davos Seaworth:

Davos sits and observes nervously as Daenerys calls out Gendry for his Baratheon heritage. (Basic Seat)

39:37 (+1) Bronn:

Bronn takes a seat with his hostages as he negotiates with Tyrion and Jaime at crossbow-point. (Basic Seat)

Deaths

4:04 (+2) Theon Greyjoy:

Theon lies atop a funeral pyre after the battle of Winterfell, as Sansa says goodbye. (Dead Body Appearance)

7:07 (+2) Beric Dondarrion:

Beric's body lies atop a funeral pyre after the Battle of Winterfell. (Dead Body Appearance)

53:32 (+5) Rhaegal:

Rhaegal is hit by three scorpion bolts from Euron and the Greyjoy fleet, falling out of the sky and plunging into the waters next to Dragonstone. (Death)

Special

9:20 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor scoops at a shepherd's pie in his bowl during the Feast of Winterfell. (Special)

9:21 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor scoops at a shepherd's pie in his bowl during the Feast of Winterfell, in a strong foreshadowing to the Cleganebowl that was Promised. (Special)

submitted by conor_finlay (approved!)

19:05 (+12) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund eagerly stares at Brienne as she excuses herself to take a piss. His 3-second gaze is unfortunately interrupted by Jaime. (Special)

submitted by conor_finlay (approved!)

Also would “icy fucks” count as a witty insult? Or does it have to be said directly to the target of the insult? -conor_finlay

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2019 May 7
Doesn't have to be said at anyone, and for Tormund these kind of half-bleed into funny lines. I did add the "shit in my pants" line right after "icy fucks", here: https://fantasora.com/event/4628

I could go either way on this icy fucks line. -nyan

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2019 May 8
I feel like he definitely does more than 3 points worth of staring here? He stares straight into her eyes for 5/6 seconds as he walks over to her. He’s speaking to everyone but his eyes are fixed right on hers and he also happens to be talking about “looking into blue eyes”. His second stare is about 5/6 seconds aswell, from the end of his laugh to the moment Jaime steps in front of him and his eyes move to him. -conor_finlay

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2019 May 8
I know he doesn’t get points for just looking at Brienne but these two stares are definitely more in line with the stares he was scored for in episode 2. -conor_finlay

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2019 May 8
That was my bad, I meant to mark this as 3 seconds and 9 points. This is the portion that you can see Tormund's eyes during the stare in the screenshot, between Brienne's "pardon me for a moment" and Jaime interrupting. The 5s is about right if you include the beginning where we just see the back of his head. Don't feel too strongly about the cutoff here, call it even at 4s? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's subjective but I feel that before this with the "icy fucks" he is mostly jovial and talking to her like a person instead of objectifying her? -nyan

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2019 May 8
Yeah that’s fair in regard to the “icy fucks” part. I’d still argue that he should get the whole 5/6 seconds for the second stars as we can still see he’s looking at her even though we can’t see his eyes the whole time. Ultimately it’s up to you though. -conor_finlay

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23:06 (+3) Sansa Stark:

Sansa cries over Theon's body as the Northern forces pay their respects to the dead after the Battle of Winterfell. (Special)

42:47 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor chews on a piece of jerky as he rides solo out of Winterfell. (Special)

49:21 (+3) Samwell Tarly:

Samwell explains the birds and the bees to Jon.

Samwell: "There's only so many books a person can read, so we-"
Gilly: "I'm sure he knows how it happens, Sam." (Special)

The Feels

4:30 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sansa grieves over the body of Theon Greyjoy as the forces at Winterfell gather to honor the dead. She leaves him with her Stark brooch before lighting the funeral pyre. (Sad Feels)

11:36 (+3) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

Sandor continues to sit and eat throughout all the various celebratory toasts for Gendry, Arya, and other heroes of the Battle of Winterfell. (Ridiculously Funny Moment)

16:44 (+3) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund continually splashes wine EVERYWHERE as he regales the crowd with the legend of Jon Snow. (Ridiculously Funny Moment)

19:48 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Tormund's heart is broken as he regales his story to Clegane. "And after all that, this fucker comes north and takes her from me. Just takes her, like that. I mean it, Clegane. My heart is broken." (Sad Feels)

22:07 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Sandor Clegane and Sansa talk about their long journeys and roads not taken.

Sandor: " You've changed, Little Bird. None of it would have happened if you'd left King's Landing with me. No Littlefinger, no Ramsay none of it."
Sansa: "Without Littlefinger, and Ramsay, and the rest... I would have stayed a Little Bird all my life." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

22:07 (+5) Sandor Clegane (The Hound):

37:18 (+5) Sansa Stark:

Arya and Sansa stage a family intervention with Jon Snow to bring him back to the Stark side.

Jon: "I've never been a Stark."
Sansa: "You are. You're just as much Ned Stark's child as any of us."
Arya: "You're my brother. Not my half-brother or my bastard brother. My brother." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

37:18 (+5) Arya Stark:

48:32 (+5) Tormund Giantsbane:

Jon and Tormund say their final farewells, as Tormund leaves to take the Free Folk home beyond the Wall.

Tormund: "It isn't home. We need room to wander. I'll take them back through Castle Black as soon as the winter storms pass. Back where we belong." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

49:52 (+5) Samwell Tarly:

Jon and Sam say their goodbyes at Winterfell.

Sam: "You're the best friend I ever had."
Jon: "You too, Sam." (Warm Fuzzy Moment)

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