Matchup: Wanna see my Littlefinger? vs Can't spell pimp without imp for Ep 2

Valar Morghulis... Don't You Mean YOLO?

Wanna see my Littlefinger? (mschappe12)

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults	Wine	Special
Arya Stark The youngest of the Stark girls. She travels to Braavos to seek Jaqen H'gar.	#12	20	2	0	3	0	15
Jon Snow The bastard son of Ned Stark, and a member of the Night's Watch. He helped lead the defense of Castle Black against the Wildling siege.	#5	19	0	9	0	10	0
Ellaria Sand The former paramour of Prince Oberyn. She is also the mother of several of his bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes.	#28	6	0	0	6	0	0
Jaqen H'ghar A member of the Faceless Men of Braavos, and a skilled assassin. After helping Arya escape from Harrenhal, his whereabouts are unknown.	#60	3	0	0	0	0	3
Olenna Redwyne (Grandma Tyrell) The matriarch of House Tyrell, Olenna is the grandmother of Margaery and Loras. Known as the "Queen of Thorns" for her sarcasm and wit.	#44	0	0	0	0	0	0
Roose Bolton Lord of House Bolton, and Warden of the North after his betrayal of Robb Stark at the Red Wedding. He is the father of Ramsay Bolton, who is his bastard son.	#21	0	0	0	0	0	0
Hizdahr zo Loraq A son of one of the Meereenese slave masters - he appears in Daenerys' court to ask for his fathers body, after Daenerys crucifies all of the slavers in Meereen.	#53	0	0	0	0	0	0
High Sparrow Leader of the Sparrows, a religious movement within the Faith of the Seven.	#37	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		48	2	9	9	10	18

Can't spell pimp without imp (olivia.sabik)

Character	Drafted	Total	Politics	Insults	Wine	Deaths	Special
Podrick Payne A squire who serves Tyrion Lannister.	#41	17	3	3	5	0	6
Varys Formerly the Master of Whisperers in King's Landing, Varys controls a vast network of spies. He flees King's Landing after aiding in Tyrion Lannister's escape.	#9	3	0	3	0	0	0
Mance Rayder A former member of the Night's Watch, Mance leads a united Wildling army as the King Beyond the Wall. Following the Battle at Castle Black however, his forces were defeated and he was captured by Stannis Baratheon.	#40	1	0	0	0	1	0
Missandei A freed slave from Astapor. She works for Daenerys as an advisor. She is fluent in many languages and often serves as a translator.	#25	0	0	0	0	0	0
Margaery Tyrell The daughter of Mace Tyrell, head of House Tyrell. Betrothed to King Tommen, she is the queen-to-be and active in the politics of King's Landing.	#8	0	0	0	0	0	0
Bran Stark The fourth of the Stark children. He is north of the Wall, arriving in the cave of the Three-eyed Raven and the Children of the Forest.	#24	0	0	0	0	0	0
Three-eyed raven A mysterious man who lives far north of the Wall with the Children of the Forest. He has been guiding Bran's dreams through the form of a three-eyed raven.	#57	0	0	0	0	0	0
Gendry A bastard son of Robert Baratheon, although this fact is not widely known (even to Gendry himself). After being captured by Melisandre, he is freed by Ser Davos and escaped Dragonstone by rowboat. His whereabouts are currently unknown.	#56	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		21	3	6	5	1	6

Kills

44:07 (+2) Arya Stark:

Arya kills a pigeon on the streets of Braavos. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Political Wins

7:54 (+3) Podrick Payne:

Podrick discovers Sansa in disguise with Petyr Baelish. "My Lady (Brienne)... Sansa Stark. Don't look! ... She's dyed her hair, but it's her." (Politics - uncategorized)

43:38 (+3) Jon Snow:

By the margin of a single vote, Jon Snow is reluctantly elected as the 998th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. (Politics - uncategorized)

Should Jon get point from all the new "Followers" he now has as Lord Commander, at least for Named Night's Watch men who are "friendly" (not Slynt, maybe Thorne)? -moonbaseu92

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2015 Apr 21 coconnor723 likes this
I don't think people get points for followers. Else Dany would have billions of points, Stannis a buttload, Tommen a ton, Doran a bunch, etc. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 24
Has there been a vote on this? I think the two explicit followers rule should count! -coconnor723

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2015 Apr 27

43:41 (+6) Jon Snow:

Samwell Tarly and Maester Aemon cast their votes for Jon Snow in the Night's Watch election. Jon edges past Ser Alliser Thorne in the election and becomes their Lord Commander. (Politics - uncategorized)

submitted by nyan (approved!)

Brought up by @moonbaseu92: "Should Jon get point from all the new "Followers" he now has as Lord Commander, at least for Named Night's Watch men who are "friendly" (not Slynt, maybe Thorne)?" -nyan

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2015 Apr 23
It's an excellent point, but a bit tricky to figure out where to limit the scope. I'd like to figure out the line and record this as a new precedent in the Rulebook.

The problem with awarding automatic followers when someone gains a new title is that it potentially has a limitless range. For example, when Tommen becomes King, did that automatically make *every* Lannister/Tyrell character in the Seven Kingdoms his follower?

I think a reasonable rule would be to require an explicit pledge or act of loyalty by the follower. So in Joffrey's case, he'd get the standard point just for receiving the title of King, but no automatic points for any of the hundreds of named subjects. However if a scene shows a character coming to King's Landing to pledge a *new* oath of fealty to King Joffrey (like he requested of Robb), that'd count as a follower.

Applied to this election, I think normally there'd be no new followers for Jon, even from those who enthusiastically support him like Samwell (same as how Tommen doesn't automatically get every Lannister/Tyrell as a follower). *However*, the Night's Watch is unique in that they carry out a democratic process, giving every member the agency to choose who they want to declare (vote) for. In this case, the votes casted are an explicit act for "I will follow Jon Snow if he wins the election", so the votes by Samwell and Maester Aemon are counted as new followers.

What does everyone else think of establishing this as the scoring rule for followers? -nyan

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2015 Apr 23
Sounds good to me. The more points scored the better and it helps improve some characters that might not score as much. As you said, it just needs to be more black and white for the scorekeepers. -wpearsal

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2015 Apr 23

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

8:13 (+3) Podrick Payne:

Brienne: "Ready the horses."
Podrick: "We only have one horse." (Funny Line)

20:22 (+3) Ellaria Sand:

to Areo Hotah: "Remove yourself from my path or I'll take that long axe and I'll shove it up your..." (Threat)

21:50 (+3) Ellaria Sand:

Doran: "...but we do not mutilate little girls for vengeance. Not here. Not while I rule."
Ellaria: "And how long will that be?" (Threat)

Areo Hotah's testing the blade with his finger doesn't count as a threat towards Ellaria because he didn't do it for her to see? -Lem Lemoncake

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2015 Apr 21 Reaper likes this
Generally only threatening lines are scored, not actions. Else every fighting scene with a threatening glare would get points as well. -nyan

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2015 Apr 23 Lem Lemoncake likes this
Good point :D -Lem Lemoncake

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2015 Apr 23

27:07 (+3) Varys:

Tyrion: "There's a bug."
Varys: "Yes, best be careful. You might accidentally consume some solid food." (Witty Insult)

44:36 (+3) Arya Stark:

Braavosi thief: "That's a nice little sword. Worth a hundred pigeons a sword like that."
Arya: "Nothing's worth anything to dead men." (Threat)

Glasses of Wine Consumed

7:38 (+5) Podrick Payne:

Podrick drinks a mug of ale while he and Brienne stop at an inn. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

39:23 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon drinks in the hall at Castle Black, as the election for Lord Commander of the Night's Watch begins. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

42:44 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon drinks another cup while members of the Night's Watch cast their votes for Lord Commander. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Deaths

+1 for Mance Rayder

Special

5:37 (+15) Arya Stark:

Arya recites her hitlist five times while waiting outside the House of Black & White. "Cersei. Walder Frey. The Mountain. Meryn Trant." (Special)

12:07 (+3) Podrick Payne:

Podrick's fails to control his horse as it runs loose during the chase by Littlefinger's men. (Special)

13:01 (+3) Podrick Payne:

Podrick loses control of his horse again, after it rears onto its hind legs and throws Podrick into the river. (Special)

45:16 (+3) Jaqen H'ghar:

Jaqen reveals himself to Arya, removing his disguise and inviting her into the House of Black and White. (Special)

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