Floppy Fish

6-3-1, 32 roto pts (#4)
Z-Score: 0.087 (percentile: 53.46%)
Weeks at #1: 0
Categories won: Kills (102)
Best Week: Episode 2: The House of Black and White (+3.5 roto points)
Team MVP: Jon Snow (picked #4, 104 points, 39.69% of team total)
Longest winstreak: W-4

Roster Stats

Character	Drafted	Total	Kills	Politics	Insults	Wine	Deaths	Special
Jon Snow The bastard son of Ned Stark, and a member of the Night's Watch. He helped lead the defense of Castle Black against the Wildling siege.	#4	104	35	27	6	20	10	6
Jorah Mormont The exiled head of House Mormont. Jorah was previously one of Daenerys' most trusted advisors, but was banished when his time serving as a spy for Robert Baratheon was revealed to her.	#28	56	36	6	6	5	0	3
Arya Stark The youngest of the Stark girls. She travels to Braavos to seek Jaqen H'gar.	#9	38	14	3	6	0	0	15
Theon Greyjoy Heir to the Iron Islands, and formerly a ward of House Stark. Theon is currently a captive of Ramsay Bolton.	#16	25	10	6	0	0	0	9
Alliser Thorne Formerly the master-of-arms at Castle Black, Thorne now serves as acting Lord Commander of the Night's Watch in the absence of Lord Commander Mormont.	#21	17	5	9	3	0	0	0
Obara Sand One of Prince Oberyn Martell's bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes.	#33	11	2	6	3	0	0	0
Hizdahr zo Loraq A son of one of the Meereenese slave masters - he appears in Daenerys' court to ask for his fathers body, after Daenerys crucifies all of the slavers in Meereen.	#40	11	0	0	0	0	11	0
Yara Greyjoy Theon's older sister, Yara was raised on the Iron Islands as a true Ironborn. She is a fearsome fighter and commands a longship of her own.	#45	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Totals		262	102	57	24	25	21	33

Roster

charId	Character	Special
39	Jon Snow The bastard son of Ned Stark, and a member of the Night's Watch. He helped lead the defense of Castle Black against the Wildling siege.	* +1 each time he unintentionally drops Longclaw * +1 point each time he is called a bastard in his presence * Ghost's actions contribute to his points.
6	Arya Stark The youngest of the Stark girls. She travels to Braavos to seek Jaqen H'gar.	* Nymeria's actions contribute to her points. * +1 point for reciting her hitlist * adopting a new Faceless Man disguise
61	Theon Greyjoy Heir to the Iron Islands, and formerly a ward of House Stark. Theon is currently a captive of Ramsay Bolton.	+1 point for scenes where Theon refers to himself as "Reek" +1 point when his missing manhood is referenced
43	Alliser Thorne Formerly the master-of-arms at Castle Black, Thorne now serves as acting Lord Commander of the Night's Watch in the absence of Lord Commander Mormont.	+1 point every time he address Jon Snow as "Lord Snow".
32	Jorah Mormont The exiled head of House Mormont. Jorah was previously one of Daenerys' most trusted advisors, but was banished when his time serving as a spy for Robert Baratheon was revealed to her.	* +1 point when he explains to someone he has Greyscale * +1 point in each scene that Jorah serves as an encyclopedia for Essos culture. * +1 point each time Daenerys convinces him to go on a mission / do something that doesn't involve being anywhere around her (friendzone)
191	Obara Sand One of Prince Oberyn Martell's bastard children, known as the Sand Snakes.	+1 for invoking the name of Oberyn Martell
96	Hizdahr zo Loraq A son of one of the Meereenese slave masters - he appears in Daenerys' court to ask for his fathers body, after Daenerys crucifies all of the slavers in Meereen.
63	Yara Greyjoy Theon's older sister, Yara was raised on the Iron Islands as a true Ironborn. She is a fearsome fighter and commands a longship of her own.	+1 when referencing that she is a lesbian, or making a pass at another woman

Kills

Episode 1: The Wars to Come

52:44 (+10) Jon Snow:

Jon Snow gives Mance a mercy kill, shooting an arrow through his heart before he is consumed by a burning pyre. (Kill of Named Character)

8 more comments - see full thread

To explain more about the philosophy, one of the important parts of the scorekeeping is that it can objectively follow definitions, without requiring judgment calls on the part of some scorekeeper (which can be subjective). In this case, I agree with both of you that Stannis probably "deserves" some credit - without his actions, Mance wouldn't have been put in a position to be killed. But "put in a position to be killed" is a little murky to make a rule for - how do you draw the line? Is it really Melisandre that puts him in that position because she starts the fire burning?

Given that, I think it's better to stick to the scoring definitions, because there's no subjectivity to them. And sometimes it results in a "deserving" character losing points, but that's fantasy sometimes - just like a football RB who hauls his team to the goal line, only for the backup to sub in and score the 1yd touchdown. -nyan

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2015 Apr 14 moonbaseu92 and coconnor723 like this
I agree with Nyan. Riddle me this: If someone (King A) commands his executioner (Brute) to kill the shopgirl (Lass), and Lass flees to Other Country where she is run over by a cart and dies, does King A get the point? Everyone's actions contribute. The point is, Mance was killed by Jon Snow. Jon Snow was NOT commanded to kill him by Stannis. Therefore, it's not a commanded kill. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 19
That's different because Mance didn't escape from the fire and run away while Jon shot at him to keep him from escaping. He was in the process of dying. Even if Jon hadn't intervened, he still would've been dead. I know Stannis won't get points for that, and I don't care, I'm just saying that I disagree with your example. -kas113

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Episode 2: The House of Black and White

44:07 (+2) Arya Stark:

Arya kills a pigeon on the streets of Braavos. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Episode 3: The High Sparrow

40:26 (+10) Jon Snow:

Jon Snow executes Janos Slynt for insubordination, after he publicly defies Jon's orders to head out to Greyguard tower. (Kill of Named Character)

Episode 4: The Sons of the Harpy

2:10 (+1) Jorah Mormont:

In the middle of the night, Jorah knocks out a fisherman with a haymaker and steals his boat. (Major Injury of Unnamed Character)

38:50 (+2) Obara Sand:

Obara throws her spear through the head of the merchant who smuggled Jaime and Bronn into Dorne. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Episode 5: Kill the Boy

52:09 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah retrieves his sword and cuts down one of the Stone Men that leaps onto his boat. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

52:14 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah stabs through one of the Stone Men with his sword. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Episode 6: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

15:19 (+2) Arya Stark:

Arya eases the pain of a sick girl by helping her drink the poisonous water from the House of Black and White. "...I drank the water from his fountain. It healed me. I've devoted my life to him now. You don't want to hurt anymore? Drink." (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Episode 7: The Gift

49:30 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah elbows Yezzan zo Qaggaz in the nose as he emerges into the fighting pit. (Minor Injury of Named Character)

49:34 (+5) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah enters the fighting pits and knocks out the remaining five fighters in hopes of winning Daenerys' favor. (Major Injury of Unnamed Character)

Episode 8: Hardhome

47:58 (+1) Jon Snow:

Jon runs his sword through a wight that emerges through a hole in the Hardhome walls, holding it in place until Tormund can come to patch the wall up with a sledge. (Major Injury of Unnamed Character)

49:08 (+4) Jon Snow:

Jon swings through two wights as he runs towards the building were the dragonglass daggers were left. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

51:51 (+10) Jon Snow:

After parrying the White Walker's ice spear with his Valyrian Steel sword, Longclaw, Jon slashes through the White Walker, shattering his body into bits of ice. (Kill of Named Character)

Episode 9: The Dance of Dragons

41:22 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah plunges a dagger into the heart of the long-axe-wielding pit fighter. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

43:39 (+10) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah does a somersault and then stabs his sword through the stomach of the pit fighter, named as the "Meereenese Champion" earlier. (Kill of Named Character)

44:04 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah throws a spear into the gallery, killing a Son of the Harpy who had been sneaking up behind Daenerys. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

45:13 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah kills a Son of the Harpy with his dagger as he makes his way over to help protect Daenerys. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

46:02 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah stabs a Son of the Harpy who attempts to ambush Daenerys in the fighting pit escape tunnel. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

47:08 (+4) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah cuts down two enemies as Daenerys' group becomes encircled by the Sons of the Harpy mob. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

49:13 (+2) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah stabs through a Son of the Harpy in the fighting pit. (Kill of Unnamed Character)

Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

18:43 (+10) Theon Greyjoy:

Theon breaks and throws Myranda from the top of the Winterfell walls onto the ground below, saving Sansa Stark. (Kill of Named Character)

22:44 (+10) Arya Stark:

Arya brutally stabs Merynt Trant in a Braavosi brothel, before slitting his throat in revenge for the death of Syrio Forel. "I've gotten a few of the others (on her hitlist). The Many-Faced God stole a few more from me. But I'm glad he left me you." (Kill of Named Character)

56:31 (+5) Alliser Thorne:

Alliser stabs Jon Snow in the stomach as he and the rest of the Night's Watch assassinate him for aiding the Wildlings. "For the Watch." (Major Injury of Named Character)

Political Wins

Episode 2: The House of Black and White

43:38 (+3) Jon Snow:

By the margin of a single vote, Jon Snow is reluctantly elected as the 998th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. (Politics - uncategorized)

Should Jon get point from all the new "Followers" he now has as Lord Commander, at least for Named Night's Watch men who are "friendly" (not Slynt, maybe Thorne)? -moonbaseu92

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2015 Apr 21 coconnor723 likes this
I don't think people get points for followers. Else Dany would have billions of points, Stannis a buttload, Tommen a ton, Doran a bunch, etc. -alicehanners

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2015 Apr 24
Has there been a vote on this? I think the two explicit followers rule should count! -coconnor723

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2015 Apr 27

43:41 (+6) Jon Snow:

Samwell Tarly and Maester Aemon cast their votes for Jon Snow in the Night's Watch election. Jon edges past Ser Alliser Thorne in the election and becomes their Lord Commander. (Politics - uncategorized)

submitted by nyan (approved!)

Brought up by @moonbaseu92: "Should Jon get point from all the new "Followers" he now has as Lord Commander, at least for Named Night's Watch men who are "friendly" (not Slynt, maybe Thorne)?" -nyan

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2015 Apr 23
It's an excellent point, but a bit tricky to figure out where to limit the scope. I'd like to figure out the line and record this as a new precedent in the Rulebook.

The problem with awarding automatic followers when someone gains a new title is that it potentially has a limitless range. For example, when Tommen becomes King, did that automatically make *every* Lannister/Tyrell character in the Seven Kingdoms his follower?

I think a reasonable rule would be to require an explicit pledge or act of loyalty by the follower. So in Joffrey's case, he'd get the standard point just for receiving the title of King, but no automatic points for any of the hundreds of named subjects. However if a scene shows a character coming to King's Landing to pledge a *new* oath of fealty to King Joffrey (like he requested of Robb), that'd count as a follower.

Applied to this election, I think normally there'd be no new followers for Jon, even from those who enthusiastically support him like Samwell (same as how Tommen doesn't automatically get every Lannister/Tyrell as a follower). *However*, the Night's Watch is unique in that they carry out a democratic process, giving every member the agency to choose who they want to declare (vote) for. In this case, the votes casted are an explicit act for "I will follow Jon Snow if he wins the election", so the votes by Samwell and Maester Aemon are counted as new followers.

What does everyone else think of establishing this as the scoring rule for followers? -nyan

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2015 Apr 23
Sounds good to me. The more points scored the better and it helps improve some characters that might not score as much. As you said, it just needs to be more black and white for the scorekeepers. -wpearsal

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2015 Apr 23

Episode 3: The High Sparrow

24:03 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon takes on Olly as his personal steward. "Olly is my steward now, as I was Lord Commander Mormont's. I want him to attend my meetings, to learn from men with experience. One day, he might command." (Politics - uncategorized)

25:27 (+3) Jon Snow:

"The Night's Watch can't continue to feed your men and the Wildling prisoners indefinitely. Winter is coming." (Politics - uncategorized)

37:03 (+3) Alliser Thorne:

Ser Alliser is appointed First Ranger by Jon Snow: "Ser Alliser, you have more experience than any other soldier at Castle Black. You proved your valor many times over by defending the Wall from the Wildling attack. I name you First Ranger." (Politics - uncategorized)

59:50 (+3) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah captures Tyrion in Volantis. "I'm taking you to the Queen." (Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 4: The Sons of the Harpy

37:34 (+3) Obara Sand:

Nymeria whips off a barrel concealing the captain that smuggled Jaime and Bronn into Dorne. He was captured after attempting to sell this information to Obara Sand. (Politics - uncategorized)

37:39 (+3) Obara Sand:

Obara discovers that Jaime has arrived in Dorne after interrogating the ship captain who smuggled him in. "A ship's captain who found me in Planky Town, claiming he had information to sell. He told me he smuggled Jaime Lannister into Dorne." (Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 5: Kill the Boy

11:33 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon Snow unlocks Tormund from his chains and convinces him to go on a mission to save the remaining Wildlings.
Jon: "Your people need a leader. And they need to get south of the Wall before it's too late. We don't have much time and they have less. The Walkers are coming and they'll hit your people first. I'm not asking you to make peace to save your skin. Make peace to save your people."
...
Tormund: "Alright then... You're coming with me." (Politics - uncategorized)

15:47 (+3) Jon Snow:

to Olly: "I know this is hard for you. But Winter is coming. We know what's coming with it. We can't face it alone." (Politics - uncategorized)

40:36 (+3) Jon Snow:

Stannis agrees to lend Jon Snow his ships, indicating that Jon is forging ahead with his plan to rescue the Wildlings despite the disapproval of most of the Night's Watch. (Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 6: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

23:08 (+3) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah convinces the slave trader Malko to take him to the fighting pits of Meereen instead of the slave city of Volantis.
Jorah: "I killed a Dothraki Bloodrider in single combat."
Malko: "Liar."
Jorah: "It's no lie. His name was Qotho. He was Bloodrider to Khal Drogo. Take me to Slaver's Bay, put a sword in my hand, I'll prove my worth." (Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 7: The Gift

4:45 (+3) Alliser Thorne:

Jon Snow names Ser Alliser acting commander at Castle Black. (Politics - uncategorized)

5:18 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon Snow is given a dragonglass dagger by Samwell Tarly, in the event that he needs to fend off the White Walkers. (Politics - uncategorized)

10:01 (+3) Theon Greyjoy:

After promising to help Sansa Stark light a signal candle at the top of the broken tower, Reek instead goes directly to Ramsay Bolton to inform him of Sansa's plot. (Politics - uncategorized)

submitted by wpearsal (approved!)

It seemed like Ramsay was a little surprised when Theon showed up, and I had thought Theon just got busted and had to confess at that point. If Theon went straight to Ramsay with the intention of telling him about Sansa's plot though, I agree it would be a betrayal. I'll have to watch the scene again, but how did others interpret the scene? -nyan

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2015 May 26
Ramsay was not dining in the broken tower. They filmed it to make it appear as though Reek was going to the tower, but he wasn't. Nobody uses the tower. The top room is an attic-y thing, remember? That's where Bran caught Jaime and Cersei. So yeah, Reek deliberately betrayed Sansa. -alicehanners

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2015 May 27 moonbaseu92 likes this
Yeah @alicehanners and @wpearsal, you both are right. Totally misinterpreted the scene on my first watching. This will count as a betrayal. -nyan

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2015 May 27
Should he also get points for "betraying" the old lady? Although I'm not sure how he found out who the "friend" of Sansa was. Maybe credit to the show writers for that plot hole. -moonbaseu92

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2015 May 27
The old lady never trusted Reek, so it wouldn't count as a betrayal for her. -nyan

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2015 May 27

Episode 9: The Dance of Dragons

24:27 (+3) Arya Stark:

Arya discovers Ser Meryn's pedophilic sexual tastes. (Politics - uncategorized)

Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

18:40 (+3) Theon Greyjoy:

Theon finally breaks and betrays the Boltons, saving Sansa Stark from one of Myranda's arrows before throwing Myranda off the walls of Winterfell. (Politics - uncategorized)

56:31 (+3) Alliser Thorne:

Jon Snow is betrayed by Ser Alliser for helping to aid the Wildlings. "For the Watch." (Politics - uncategorized)

Insults Delivered / Funny Lines

Episode 2: The House of Black and White

44:36 (+3) Arya Stark:

Braavosi thief: "That's a nice little sword. Worth a hundred pigeons a sword like that."
Arya: "Nothing's worth anything to dead men." (Threat)

Episode 3: The High Sparrow

28:53 (+3) Arya Stark:

Arya: "Cunt!" (Funny Line)

submitted by alicehanners (approved!)

I didn't pick up on this one personally, but a few other people have mentioned it - was it the way she said it? I'll go with the popular demand if this gets a lot of likes/supporting comments. -nyan

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2015 Apr 28
I think this should definitely count. Right or wrong I think this got one of the biggest laughs among our league. -moonbaseu92

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2015 Apr 28
Got some good laughs from my league aswell. -timguttman

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2015 Apr 28
By overwhelming popular demand - approved! -nyan

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2015 Apr 29 meghan.coulbourne likes this

36:14 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon appoints a new latrine captain to head up the latrine pit digging: "Brian - it seems like a good job for a ginger." (Funny Line)

Episode 4: The Sons of the Harpy

39:49 (+3) Jorah Mormont:

Tyrion: "I can't sleep without wine."
Jorah: "Then stay awake." (Funny Line)

submitted by wpearsal (approved!)

Episode 7: The Gift

40:27 (+3) Obara Sand:

Bronn: "It's against my code to hurt a woman.
Obara: "It's amazing how many men we beat seem to have this code." (Witty Insult)

Episode 9: The Dance of Dragons

7:03 (+3) Alliser Thorne:

to Jon: "You have a good heart, Jon Snow. It'll get us all killed." (Witty Insult)

Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

7:59 (+3) Jon Snow:

Jon: "You had just been beaten half to death. How did you...?"
Sam: "Oh, very carefully."
Jon: "I'm glad the end of the world's working out well for someone." (Funny Line)

33:05 (+3) Jorah Mormont:

Tyrion: "Fine, fine. I suppose he can join us. Just as long as he promises not to kill me in my sleep."
Jorah: "If I ever kill you, your eyes will be wide open." (Threat)

Glasses of Wine Consumed

Episode 2: The House of Black and White

39:23 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon drinks in the hall at Castle Black, as the election for Lord Commander of the Night's Watch begins. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

42:44 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon drinks another cup while members of the Night's Watch cast their votes for Lord Commander. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Episode 3: The High Sparrow

39:12 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon "Never Kill a Man Sober" Snow finishes off his drink before heading outside to execute Janos Slynt. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

55:55 (+5) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah drinks away his sorrows as he can't even get within the friendzone of the Daenerys cosplayer in Volantis. (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

8:23 (+5) Jon Snow:

Jon and Sam toast to Sam's journey to Oldtown to become a Maester. "To your return." (Glass of Wine Consumed)

Deaths

Episode 9: The Dance of Dragons

45:30 (+10) Hizdahr zo Loraq:

Hizdahr is stabbed to death by the Sons of the Harpy as they mount an attack on the fighting pits. (Death)

Episode 10: Mother's Mercy

58:45 (+10) Jon Snow:

Jon Snow is stabbed by a band of Night's Watch mutineers, receiving the final fatal blow from his steward, Olly. (Death)

+1 for Hizdahr zo Loraq

Special

Episode 1: The Wars to Come

23:07 (+3) Jon Snow:

Melisandre announces Jon Snow to Stannis: "Your Grace. The bastard of Winterfell." (Special)

Episode 2: The House of Black and White

5:37 (+15) Arya Stark:

Arya recites her hitlist five times while waiting outside the House of Black & White. "Cersei. Walder Frey. The Mountain. Meryn Trant." (Special)

Episode 3: The High Sparrow

38:09 (+3) Jon Snow:

Janos Slynt: "You can stick your order up your bastard ass." (Special)

Episode 5: Kill the Boy

50:12 (+3) Jorah Mormont:

Jorah finishes Tyrion's recital of a poem describing the Doom of Valyria. "... a city of a thousand years, and all that men had learned; The Doom consumed it all alike, and neither of them turned." (Special)

Episode 7: The Gift

7:41 (+3) Theon Greyjoy:

to Sansa: "I'm not Theon, m'lady. I'm Reek." (Special)

8:39 (+3) Theon Greyjoy:

Sansa: "Promise me, Theon."
Reek: "Reek! My name is Reek." (Special)

Episode 8: Hardhome

16:20 (+3) Theon Greyjoy:

"I'm not Theon. There is no Theon. Reek." (Special)

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